Comments on: X vs. XP http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Wed, 23 May 2012 23:05:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Starly http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-67633 Starly Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:05:08 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-67633 Haha, shouldn't you be chranigg for that kind of knowledge?! Haha, shouldn't you be chranigg for that kind of knowledge?!

]]> By: Mike Huntisfull http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1277 Mike Huntisfull Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:57:04 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1277 I hate it when people say macs are more flexible. Completely the opposite. Have you ever changed a mac to look and feel like a pc by replacing dlls? You couldn't if you wanted to. More accurate mousing? I can wave my mouse across the screen and hit targets along the way. Comparing autorun of CDs is comparing apples to oranges. Windows autoruns because the CD developer thinks that's appropriate. Hold shift to override it. To browse the cd click my computer, right click the cd drive, choose browse. "no 'maximize to fill the screen' command." This is something I want. Why let the computer decide how much screen real estate I want to use for a particular application. If I want less I'll manually resize it. Apache, download and install it. Better fonts? They both do the excact same thing with the sub-pixel rendering stuff on lcds. The r and n thing is halfway true, but I never noticed until you pointed it out. Despite all this I still think macs are superior only in that the apple people have bundled the most useful technologies together. I think windows is more flexible and powerful but there just isn't a central driving force to perfect it. If that happens I think apple is screwed, because most of the apple "innovations" are nothing more than common sense conclusions. Any company can do that but microsoft is too internally-disorganized. I hate it when people say macs are more flexible. Completely the opposite. Have you ever changed a mac to look and feel like a pc by replacing dlls? You couldn't if you wanted to. More accurate mousing? I can wave my mouse across the screen and hit targets along the way. Comparing autorun of CDs is comparing apples to oranges. Windows autoruns because the CD developer thinks that's appropriate. Hold shift to override it. To browse the cd click my computer, right click the cd drive, choose browse. "no 'maximize to fill the screen' command." This is something I want. Why let the computer decide how much screen real estate I want to use for a particular application. If I want less I'll manually resize it. Apache, download and install it. Better fonts? They both do the excact same thing with the sub-pixel rendering stuff on lcds. The r and n thing is halfway true, but I never noticed until you pointed it out.

Despite all this I still think macs are superior only in that the apple people have bundled the most useful technologies together. I think windows is more flexible and powerful but there just isn't a central driving force to perfect it. If that happens I think apple is screwed, because most of the apple "innovations" are nothing more than common sense conclusions. Any company can do that but microsoft is too internally-disorganized.

]]> By: andy http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1276 andy Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:33:47 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1276 My hard disk only cost EUR40, try to find any comparable Windows computer! (Never mind that a hard disk alone can never do the same stuff that windows box could do) My hard disk only cost EUR40, try to find any comparable Windows computer!

(Never mind that a hard disk alone can never do the same stuff that windows box could do)

]]> By: A.Y. http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1275 A.Y. Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:23:27 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1275 Don't let the "Macs are not expensive" crowd fool you. When you have less than ten users, Macs are almost always more expensive. My 160 GB, 512 MB RAM eMachines with XP is great, and it cost me only $600. Find me a comparable Mac for anywhere near that price. Don't let the "Macs are not expensive" crowd fool you. When you have less than ten users, Macs are almost always more expensive. My 160 GB, 512 MB RAM eMachines with XP is great, and it cost me only $600. Find me a comparable Mac for anywhere near that price.

]]> By: E http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1274 E Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:22:16 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1274 The fact is that for an average everyday user there really isn't much difference between the two operating systems. Mac OS X has some stuff that is better than it's equivilant in xp and vise versa. This debate is outdated. Both operating systems are excellent. The choice between them depends on what you're going to use your computer for and how much money you have (Windows based systems are cheaper than their equivilant Mac OS based computers) The fact is that for an average everyday user there really isn't much difference between the two operating systems. Mac OS X has some stuff that is better than it's equivilant in xp and vise versa. This debate is outdated. Both operating systems are excellent. The choice between them depends on what you're going to use your computer for and how much money you have (Windows based systems are cheaper than their equivilant Mac OS based computers)

]]> By: Andrew Escobar http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1273 Andrew Escobar Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:49:40 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1273 <blockquote>Significantly wider choice of high end software IS an OS advantage issue. In every area one might want a machien there are more choices on Windows... and they always include the top programs in the field.</blockquote> Interesting. So exactly when was Final Cut Pro released for Windows. It hasn't been? Never will be, you say? Oh. More choice doesn't mean better choices. Mac users have an excellent selection of both low and high end software. We have quality software. There isn't a need for other shitty "choices."

Significantly wider choice of high end software IS an OS advantage issue. In every area one might want a machien there are more choices on Windows... and they always include the top programs in the field.

Interesting. So exactly when was Final Cut Pro released for Windows.

It hasn't been? Never will be, you say? Oh.

More choice doesn't mean better choices. Mac users have an excellent selection of both low and high end software. We have quality software. There isn't a need for other shitty "choices."

]]> By: cedric http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1272 cedric Sun, 05 Oct 2003 13:18:45 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1272 Hello, > soulhuntre said : "The WinNT/WinXP security model is every bit as secure as the unix/linux/bsd model as well as being more flexible." Lol, very nice dream I think. How can you call Wint/WinXp a security model ? Did you know that Microsoft Compagny run their servers under unix systems ? Hello,

> soulhuntre said : "The WinNT/WinXP security model is every bit as secure as the unix/linux/bsd model as well as being more flexible."

Lol, very nice dream I think.

How can you call Wint/WinXp a security model ? Did you know that Microsoft Compagny run their servers under unix systems ?

]]> By: Soulhuntre http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1271 Soulhuntre Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:19:02 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1271 Well... your right, it IS a OS X list so we can't expect it to be completely unbiased :) I'll add some: Remote Desktop is built in and dramatically faster than the X protocol over broadband and dialup lines for remote control and help desk applications. Much cheaper and faster commodity hardware. The cost of the OS is irrelvant when you can ger a $399 machine WITH the OS in it that is as fast as Mac systems costing about $1000. The WinNT/WinXP security model is every bit as secure as the unix/linux/bsd model as well as being more flexible. Multiple vendors for hardware and much wider range of hardware support make for a much more flexible server environment for large scale applications. Full unix/bsd like command line environment available for free... including the vast majority of unix utilities. Freely available development environments. Perl, C++ (GNU), PHP, C#, VB.NET Python and so on make the system every bit as flexible for free development as OS X. All those languages have free development environments. Significantly wider choice of high end software IS an OS advantage issue. In every area one might want a machien there are more choices on Windows... and they always include the top programs in the field. Ah well, you get the idea :) OH - WPA (activation) has indeed proven itself to be an absolute non issue while lowering the level of Windows piracy. This is a good thing. Apple doesn't bother because the entire Mac is a dongle - not because they trust anyone. Well... your right, it IS a OS X list so we can't expect it to be completely unbiased :)

I'll add some:

Remote Desktop is built in and dramatically faster than the X protocol over broadband and dialup lines for remote control and help desk applications.

Much cheaper and faster commodity hardware. The cost of the OS is irrelvant when you can ger a $399 machine WITH the OS in it that is as fast as Mac systems costing about $1000.

The WinNT/WinXP security model is every bit as secure as the unix/linux/bsd model as well as being more flexible.

Multiple vendors for hardware and much wider range of hardware support make for a much more flexible server environment for large scale applications.

Full unix/bsd like command line environment available for free... including the vast majority of unix utilities.

Freely available development environments. Perl, C++ (GNU), PHP, C#, VB.NET Python and so on make the system every bit as flexible for free development as OS X. All those languages have free development environments.

Significantly wider choice of high end software IS an OS advantage issue. In every area one might want a machien there are more choices on Windows... and they always include the top programs in the field.

Ah well, you get the idea :)

OH - WPA (activation) has indeed proven itself to be an absolute non issue while lowering the level of Windows piracy. This is a good thing. Apple doesn't bother because the entire Mac is a dongle - not because they trust anyone.

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1270 Erik J. Barzeski Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:38:08 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1270 Uh, far from being what is wanted. I could easily add "terminal services" too. Uh, far from being what is wanted. I could easily add "terminal services" too.

]]> By: ff http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp#comment-1269 ff Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:43:07 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/03/14/x_vs_xp/#comment-1269 You can login as another user(s) with Mac OS X. GO to Terminal. Type login whatever, traverse paths. You can login as another user(s) with Mac OS X. GO to Terminal. Type login whatever, traverse paths.

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