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		<title>By: Worldwide Ace &#187; Foreign Exchange - Part II</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-52677</link>
		<dc:creator>Worldwide Ace &#187; Foreign Exchange - Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have written about the &#8220;Friend Zone&#8221; and the problems therein. There are essays by men (many, many essays), essays by women (a few), an instruction manual for escaping, a wikipedia entry on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Woods</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-50424</link>
		<dc:creator>Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know from personal, empirical experience that there is literally never any possible escape from the dreaded Friend Zone. And if you ever manage to pop that tenuous, amorphous bubble, nothing good ever comes of it. You know why? Because only one person really wants a relationship and the other person doesn&#039;t, but is too non-committal/confrontational to say so.

Also, this:
http://www.peroxidecomics.com/escape-from-friend-zone-game/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know from personal, empirical experience that there is literally never any possible escape from the dreaded Friend Zone. And if you ever manage to pop that tenuous, amorphous bubble, nothing good ever comes of it. You know why? Because only one person really wants a relationship and the other person doesn't, but is too non-committal/confrontational to say so.</p>
<p>Also, this:<br />
<a  href="http://www.peroxidecomics.com/escape-from-friend-zone-game/">http://www.peroxidecomics.com/escape-from-friend-zone-game/</a></p>
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		<title>By: interesting</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-49642</link>
		<dc:creator>interesting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just wanted to say that i found this blog really interesting, but kind of frustrating.

As a girl, i had a situation along these lines happen to me
more or less, i became friends with a guy, but we were both in it purely for more than friendship but in an unspoken rule we got to know eachother - i guess you could say slowly - before anything actually occured.
i think we both wouldve liked to move things along a bit faster but we live a little bit of a distance from one another and i dont have a drivers licence so those are the factors that made it a little difficult, but it didnt seem to stop his enthusiasm.

what i dont understand and what wasn&#039;t in your blog is i guess things were going relatively well and then i got the cold shoulder suddenly...and i know that he is not the type of person that would sleaze onto a girl and then ditch her 5 minutes later.
also what i dont understand is the fact that he was very into the idea of us being together, i was too but he was much more forward in sharing his feelings and ideas, then i opened up, primarily because i felt comfortable enough to because he initiated it.
I guess the problem now is that i was so confused when he started giving me the cold shoulder and just so upset and angry that i left it too long to ask why, and we&#039;d never really had any chance to talk about having a relationship so for me to bring it up might have ruined things altogether.

I guess i went through the motions slowly, at first when he would make friendly conversation now and again i always told myself it meant i was in with a chance.
now, i think ive realised that this isnt the case and so any conversation we do have, i am now starting to realise that its good i got a friend out of the whole situation.

I just wish i knew his reasonings.
But, i just wanted to point out that its not always the girl, and im not trying to make men sound evil or anything but...if your gonna end it with someone, at least give them a reason...a PROPER reason...the &#039;friend zone&#039; isnt valid unless you have backup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just wanted to say that i found this blog really interesting, but kind of frustrating.</p>
<p>As a girl, i had a situation along these lines happen to me<br />
more or less, i became friends with a guy, but we were both in it purely for more than friendship but in an unspoken rule we got to know eachother - i guess you could say slowly - before anything actually occured.<br />
i think we both wouldve liked to move things along a bit faster but we live a little bit of a distance from one another and i dont have a drivers licence so those are the factors that made it a little difficult, but it didnt seem to stop his enthusiasm.</p>
<p>what i dont understand and what wasn't in your blog is i guess things were going relatively well and then i got the cold shoulder suddenly...and i know that he is not the type of person that would sleaze onto a girl and then ditch her 5 minutes later.<br />
also what i dont understand is the fact that he was very into the idea of us being together, i was too but he was much more forward in sharing his feelings and ideas, then i opened up, primarily because i felt comfortable enough to because he initiated it.<br />
I guess the problem now is that i was so confused when he started giving me the cold shoulder and just so upset and angry that i left it too long to ask why, and we'd never really had any chance to talk about having a relationship so for me to bring it up might have ruined things altogether.</p>
<p>I guess i went through the motions slowly, at first when he would make friendly conversation now and again i always told myself it meant i was in with a chance.<br />
now, i think ive realised that this isnt the case and so any conversation we do have, i am now starting to realise that its good i got a friend out of the whole situation.</p>
<p>I just wish i knew his reasonings.<br />
But, i just wanted to point out that its not always the girl, and im not trying to make men sound evil or anything but...if your gonna end it with someone, at least give them a reason...a PROPER reason...the 'friend zone' isnt valid unless you have backup.</p>
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		<title>By: angry</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-46851</link>
		<dc:creator>angry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i fucking hate the friend zone. i think its fucking cruel and thats it.</description>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-43656</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was well written and is the truth.

I confessed to a close friend on how I felt about her.  I laid everything on the table and told her how much she meant to me.  I knew she came out of a bad relationship that lasted numerous years.  She told me that she was scared, but I gave her my word that I truly care for her.  She has been single for almost a year.

As a man, I am ashamed to say that I brokedown.   She called me in the middle of it and I released my frustrations.  She cried as well, and said she did care, but needed time to commit.

Now I sit here and wait for her.  I risked my friendship with her because I care about her so much.  In the end, I always believed that men and women can be &quot;average friends,&quot; but to click on every level of life with the opposite sex leads to wanting more from either side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was well written and is the truth.</p>
<p>I confessed to a close friend on how I felt about her.  I laid everything on the table and told her how much she meant to me.  I knew she came out of a bad relationship that lasted numerous years.  She told me that she was scared, but I gave her my word that I truly care for her.  She has been single for almost a year.</p>
<p>As a man, I am ashamed to say that I brokedown.   She called me in the middle of it and I released my frustrations.  She cried as well, and said she did care, but needed time to commit.</p>
<p>Now I sit here and wait for her.  I risked my friendship with her because I care about her so much.  In the end, I always believed that men and women can be "average friends," but to click on every level of life with the opposite sex leads to wanting more from either side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-43602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say thank you for this.  I am finding myself in a situation where I was starting to become &quot;worried&quot; about falling into &quot;the friend zone&quot; with a particular girl who I really do consider a close friend who I hope a deeper Relationship might happen.

I was starting to wonder if there was any way out of this &quot;friend zone&quot; without being an asshole.  And you answered that with a resounding YES.

There is nothing wrong with being her friend, because in the end, don&#039;t you want to be with a friend, and not just a piece of ass?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say thank you for this.  I am finding myself in a situation where I was starting to become "worried" about falling into "the friend zone" with a particular girl who I really do consider a close friend who I hope a deeper Relationship might happen.</p>
<p>I was starting to wonder if there was any way out of this "friend zone" without being an asshole.  And you answered that with a resounding YES.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with being her friend, because in the end, don't you want to be with a friend, and not just a piece of ass?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Goodman</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-42688</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mr Donny,

If your Ã¢â‚¬Å“life is really comfortable and pleasant right nowÃ¢â‚¬Â, why would you want to settle for anything less than comfortable? I really know your pain because I been in your shoes years ago and I got depressed badly but it was the best thing that ever happened to me, honestly a blessing from God.
The Dalai Lama once said:
Ã¢â‚¬Å“When you lose don&#039;t lose the lessonÃ¢â‚¬Â
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luckÃ¢â‚¬Â

Young women are not looking for love Donny, they are looking for Ã¢â‚¬Å“lustÃ¢â‚¬Â and if you want to attract them you need to learn how to trigger feelings of lust when you meet an attractive girl. If you don&#039;t know what I Ã¢â‚¬Ëœm saying, google David DeAngelo and you will find out.

A girl who has no problem telling you that Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are like a brotherÃ¢â‚¬Â after you declare your feelings to her is everything but your friend. She only care about herself and don&#039;t give a damn about you or your feelings. A girl who care about you will understand that you have strong feelings for her and will give you a considerate response (such as Ã¢â‚¬Å“I understand how you feel, but I don&#039;t feel the same way at this momentÃ¢â‚¬Â) but telling you that you are like a brother is just a plain insult of saying that Ã¢â‚¬Å“I need someone that I can be intimate with without any attachmentÃ¢â‚¬Â. Telling a male friend that he is like a brother is pure controlling is make you feel guilt of your feelings like: Ã¢â‚¬Å“How can you desire me if I love you like a brother of mineÃ¢â‚¬Â. Make you feel like you are a psycho who wants to make an act called Ã¢â‚¬Å“IncestÃ¢â‚¬Â. Those girls are controlling, plus they go around screwing every guy they lust for and will come back to you to complain about them. (Again they want someone to screw without any emotional attachment)

Read about psychology, you will found that women who separate emotional needs and sexual needs (unconsciously) are dangerous women that you should avoid to associate with unless you want a short fling. Most of those girls (that I know) did not have a good relationship with their father and when they forge a strong relationship with a male it is very new to them and it becomes impossible for them to move such relationship to a physical level. Its called Insecurity Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.

You should never seek to talk to that girl again. Go on with your life and never look back again. You sound like a prototype of men that women call Ã¢â‚¬Å“nice guyÃ¢â‚¬Â and those men don&#039;t have a clue about dealing with attractive women (NEVER befriend a girl you are attracted to) 
Man, it&#039;s brainless for a single man to hang out with women you are not planning to sleep with? Man, you are loosing a considerable amount of your precious time and guess what? You are not getting any younger either, so this is also called Insecurity Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.
It is obvious that you are seeking woman companionship to validate your self worth and you should quit doing that shit. Spend time alone, turn on sport center, play an instrument, socialize with men and play poker, get you a motorcycle or create an online businessÃ¢â‚¬Â¦..Live your life and women will want to join you (this time you will have a choice to accept them or reject them) and please don&#039;t ever beg for a women love, it&#039;s a pure turn off (an attraction killer)

Now I hope that you know why your friend put you into the zone in first place. She was insecure and so you; two insecure people together to create a false sense of security but when they mate (or marry) Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦it&#039;s a disaster. To be honest, you are lucky she rejected you because she offered an opportunity to work on yourself, and you did a great thing to ask her to never bother you again (and it should stay that way).

Ironically the same insecure women change when they reach late 30s and somehow become wiser. They wish they can find a man who loves them for themselves without playing the number games they just graduated from. They know the difference between love and lust (they use to call attraction), they are tired of jerks and they want a stable man (they use to call nice guy). The bad part is that at that age, those women don&#039;t look as fine as they used to look and their reproductive clock is ticking down. In my experience, I just wonder if those women changed or it just a result of desperation or economic success of recovered former nice guys they rejected a decade before.

Love requires a lot of work and confrontations; both young men and women are not interested to do any work. For women lust is easier, attraction is there, why work harder? But when they get dumped or cheated onÃ¢â‚¬Â¦they feel being used for sex. For insecure men, when they lust for a female, they accept to be in the zone and wait for the girl to notice themÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.that&#039;s lazy. Donny, you showed courage when you decided to get out the friend zone, don&#039;t go back being lazy manÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.be courageous and be selective when you choose women because a lot of them out there are burning, damaged or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mr Donny,</p>
<p>If your Ã¢â‚¬Å“life is really comfortable and pleasant right nowÃ¢â‚¬Â, why would you want to settle for anything less than comfortable? I really know your pain because I been in your shoes years ago and I got depressed badly but it was the best thing that ever happened to me, honestly a blessing from God.<br />
The Dalai Lama once said:<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Å“When you lose don't lose the lessonÃ¢â‚¬Â<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luckÃ¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Young women are not looking for love Donny, they are looking for Ã¢â‚¬Å“lustÃ¢â‚¬Â and if you want to attract them you need to learn how to trigger feelings of lust when you meet an attractive girl. If you don't know what I Ã¢â‚¬Ëœm saying, google David DeAngelo and you will find out.</p>
<p>A girl who has no problem telling you that Ã¢â‚¬Å“You are like a brotherÃ¢â‚¬Â after you declare your feelings to her is everything but your friend. She only care about herself and don't give a damn about you or your feelings. A girl who care about you will understand that you have strong feelings for her and will give you a considerate response (such as Ã¢â‚¬Å“I understand how you feel, but I don't feel the same way at this momentÃ¢â‚¬Â) but telling you that you are like a brother is just a plain insult of saying that Ã¢â‚¬Å“I need someone that I can be intimate with without any attachmentÃ¢â‚¬Â. Telling a male friend that he is like a brother is pure controlling is make you feel guilt of your feelings like: Ã¢â‚¬Å“How can you desire me if I love you like a brother of mineÃ¢â‚¬Â. Make you feel like you are a psycho who wants to make an act called Ã¢â‚¬Å“IncestÃ¢â‚¬Â. Those girls are controlling, plus they go around screwing every guy they lust for and will come back to you to complain about them. (Again they want someone to screw without any emotional attachment)</p>
<p>Read about psychology, you will found that women who separate emotional needs and sexual needs (unconsciously) are dangerous women that you should avoid to associate with unless you want a short fling. Most of those girls (that I know) did not have a good relationship with their father and when they forge a strong relationship with a male it is very new to them and it becomes impossible for them to move such relationship to a physical level. Its called Insecurity Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.</p>
<p>You should never seek to talk to that girl again. Go on with your life and never look back again. You sound like a prototype of men that women call Ã¢â‚¬Å“nice guyÃ¢â‚¬Â and those men don't have a clue about dealing with attractive women (NEVER befriend a girl you are attracted to)<br />
Man, it's brainless for a single man to hang out with women you are not planning to sleep with? Man, you are loosing a considerable amount of your precious time and guess what? You are not getting any younger either, so this is also called Insecurity Ã¢â‚¬Â¦.<br />
It is obvious that you are seeking woman companionship to validate your self worth and you should quit doing that shit. Spend time alone, turn on sport center, play an instrument, socialize with men and play poker, get you a motorcycle or create an online businessÃ¢â‚¬Â¦..Live your life and women will want to join you (this time you will have a choice to accept them or reject them) and please don't ever beg for a women love, it's a pure turn off (an attraction killer)</p>
<p>Now I hope that you know why your friend put you into the zone in first place. She was insecure and so you; two insecure people together to create a false sense of security but when they mate (or marry) Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦it's a disaster. To be honest, you are lucky she rejected you because she offered an opportunity to work on yourself, and you did a great thing to ask her to never bother you again (and it should stay that way).</p>
<p>Ironically the same insecure women change when they reach late 30s and somehow become wiser. They wish they can find a man who loves them for themselves without playing the number games they just graduated from. They know the difference between love and lust (they use to call attraction), they are tired of jerks and they want a stable man (they use to call nice guy). The bad part is that at that age, those women don't look as fine as they used to look and their reproductive clock is ticking down. In my experience, I just wonder if those women changed or it just a result of desperation or economic success of recovered former nice guys they rejected a decade before.</p>
<p>Love requires a lot of work and confrontations; both young men and women are not interested to do any work. For women lust is easier, attraction is there, why work harder? But when they get dumped or cheated onÃ¢â‚¬Â¦they feel being used for sex. For insecure men, when they lust for a female, they accept to be in the zone and wait for the girl to notice themÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.that's lazy. Donny, you showed courage when you decided to get out the friend zone, don't go back being lazy manÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.be courageous and be selective when you choose women because a lot of them out there are burning, damaged or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-42620</link>
		<dc:creator>Donny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was really well written.  You&#039;re talented.  

My name&#039;s Donny.  I fell in love with my best friend 6 years ago.  We were so connected and spent so much time together, I felt like I could feel her emotions and thoughts rippling through my body.  When we hung out, I smiled so much my cheeks would hurt.  I didn&#039;t know there was a feeling like that of pure happiness, that was so intense.  

But I haven&#039;t spoken to her for 3 years, because she gave me the &quot;I&#039;m like a brother&quot; speech.  The feelings of jealousy I developed made me a depressed maniac, so after a few years of waiting and asking and then begging, I told her to never talk to me again, so I could move on with my life. 

To give a clear picture, I&#039;ll explain-  I&#039;m really good-looking and everywhere I go girls openly gaze at me with lust.  So I couldn&#039;t, or can&#039;t really understand what&#039;s up with the &quot;like a brother&quot; thing.  

But at the same time, I understand a little, because I&#039;ve got a new friend who&#039;s a girl.  And we really cool with each other.  She loves basketball and music.  I dig all that.  But at the same time, she&#039;s way too thick for me to ever do anything sexual.  She wishes I would make her my girlfriend and some of my other friends want that too.  But even if they&#039;re ok looking I still say no.  And I try to not hurt them.  

So, it&#039;s like if I break hearts, it&#039;s only fair that fate threw a girl at me to break mine.  

My life is really comfortable and pleasant right now.  But I wonder when we&#039;re going to talk again or if I&#039;ll ever meet someone for whom I&#039;ll feel the same or more.  I feel like I&#039;ll probably just marry somebody who won&#039;t mean as much to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was really well written.  You're talented.  </p>
<p>My name's Donny.  I fell in love with my best friend 6 years ago.  We were so connected and spent so much time together, I felt like I could feel her emotions and thoughts rippling through my body.  When we hung out, I smiled so much my cheeks would hurt.  I didn't know there was a feeling like that of pure happiness, that was so intense.  </p>
<p>But I haven't spoken to her for 3 years, because she gave me the "I'm like a brother" speech.  The feelings of jealousy I developed made me a depressed maniac, so after a few years of waiting and asking and then begging, I told her to never talk to me again, so I could move on with my life. </p>
<p>To give a clear picture, I'll explain-  I'm really good-looking and everywhere I go girls openly gaze at me with lust.  So I couldn't, or can't really understand what's up with the "like a brother" thing.  </p>
<p>But at the same time, I understand a little, because I've got a new friend who's a girl.  And we really cool with each other.  She loves basketball and music.  I dig all that.  But at the same time, she's way too thick for me to ever do anything sexual.  She wishes I would make her my girlfriend and some of my other friends want that too.  But even if they're ok looking I still say no.  And I try to not hurt them.  </p>
<p>So, it's like if I break hearts, it's only fair that fate threw a girl at me to break mine.  </p>
<p>My life is really comfortable and pleasant right now.  But I wonder when we're going to talk again or if I'll ever meet someone for whom I'll feel the same or more.  I feel like I'll probably just marry somebody who won't mean as much to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2003/04/12/friend_zone#comment-42346</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:neutral: 

Hi there, my name is Sandy and I have an ex I broke up with over a year ago.... too make a long story short, he came back about 4 months ago.  The physical stuff continued the first night we got back together, .... sexually anyways....

Fast forward 4 months later, we get up from a nap, he says &quot;isn&#039;t it nice to be in the friend zone&quot;..... I must have stood there looking at him with my dazed look for a full minute.... WTF is this?  

I got dressed told him to get the fugg out and NEVER come back, he knocked on my door the next day like nothing happened.  I asked him &quot;How many times do I have to flush?&quot;
Slammed the door in his face....  This all happened this past weekend.

What do you make of this..... wow did that ever hurt..... sux the big one or what?</description>
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<p>Hi there, my name is Sandy and I have an ex I broke up with over a year ago.... too make a long story short, he came back about 4 months ago.  The physical stuff continued the first night we got back together, .... sexually anyways....</p>
<p>Fast forward 4 months later, we get up from a nap, he says "isn't it nice to be in the friend zone"..... I must have stood there looking at him with my dazed look for a full minute.... WTF is this?  </p>
<p>I got dressed told him to get the fugg out and NEVER come back, he knocked on my door the next day like nothing happened.  I asked him "How many times do I have to flush?"<br />
Slammed the door in his face....  This all happened this past weekend.</p>
<p>What do you make of this..... wow did that ever hurt..... sux the big one or what?</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a girl, stuck in this friend zone.  I mean, I have had lots of guy friends, who have never expressed an interest or we talked about moving forwrd but decided &quot;no&quot; but there is this one guy that I love being with...we have so much fun, we talk for hours, it is so great. i dont think he is perfect..no one is, but he is for me...i love him with flaws and all.  I have another friend who i am very close to, whom i have a very brotehrly/sisterly reltaionship.  well the first guy told me he thinks i am so great, but he only sees me as a sister.  I definitely do not think of him even remotely like i do with guy number two.  I don&#039;t know if all your theories about how/when a guy develops feelings is true.  or that he woudlnt be willing to invest time in someone he is not interested in.  my friend invests a ton of time in me..but yet he says &quot;no feelings&quot;.  he really wnats to find a wife and get married...yet he spends all his time with me.  He is driving me mad!!! i think it is because he has this ideal vision of who he should be with....which i do NOT fit.  All the women he seems to be attracted to are really pretty, but have nothing in common with him, and wouldnt either give him the time of day or treat him like dirt.  sigh.  whats a girl to do?  i am tempted to mka emyself gorgeous- i have already lost 20 lbs, and am losing more...but frind myself bitter and hope he doesnt wait till then to notice i am a woman...that is so shallow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a girl, stuck in this friend zone.  I mean, I have had lots of guy friends, who have never expressed an interest or we talked about moving forwrd but decided "no" but there is this one guy that I love being with...we have so much fun, we talk for hours, it is so great. i dont think he is perfect..no one is, but he is for me...i love him with flaws and all.  I have another friend who i am very close to, whom i have a very brotehrly/sisterly reltaionship.  well the first guy told me he thinks i am so great, but he only sees me as a sister.  I definitely do not think of him even remotely like i do with guy number two.  I don't know if all your theories about how/when a guy develops feelings is true.  or that he woudlnt be willing to invest time in someone he is not interested in.  my friend invests a ton of time in me..but yet he says "no feelings".  he really wnats to find a wife and get married...yet he spends all his time with me.  He is driving me mad!!! i think it is because he has this ideal vision of who he should be with....which i do NOT fit.  All the women he seems to be attracted to are really pretty, but have nothing in common with him, and wouldnt either give him the time of day or treat him like dirt.  sigh.  whats a girl to do?  i am tempted to mka emyself gorgeous- i have already lost 20 lbs, and am losing more...but frind myself bitter and hope he doesnt wait till then to notice i am a woman...that is so shallow!</p>
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