Comments on: Keyboard Shortcuts http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:07:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Phil http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2352 Phil Sun, 27 Apr 2003 02:45:33 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2352 Are you honestly saying that Windows' alt-F4 shortcut for closing a window isn't intuitive? Are you honestly saying that Windows' alt-F4 shortcut for closing a window isn't intuitive?

]]> By: Kynn http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2351 Kynn Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:10:41 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2351 I like the command key instead of the control key, because control keys have special meaning in terminal applications, and command does not. Also, check out this, which I just found via MacUpdate: <a href="http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11381">Menu Master 1.0.1</a> "Menu Master is a haxie that allows you to change or remove menu shortcut keys in any application with ease. It takes about 15 seconds to learn how to use Menu Master, and saves you lots of time later because you can use the shortcuts you defined and do not bother remembering which ones the developer of the software invented for you. Additionally, you can set shortcuts to any menu item that had no shortcuts, or remove shortcuts from menu items." Very interesting implications for keyboard accessibility. --Kynn I like the command key instead of the control key, because control keys have special meaning in terminal applications, and command does not.

Also, check out this, which I just found via MacUpdate:

Menu Master 1.0.1

"Menu Master is a haxie that allows you to change or remove menu shortcut keys in any application with ease. It takes about 15 seconds to learn how to use Menu Master, and saves you lots of time later because you can use the shortcuts you defined and do not bother remembering which ones the developer of the software invented for you. Additionally, you can set shortcuts to any menu item that had no shortcuts, or remove shortcuts from menu items."

Very interesting implications for keyboard accessibility.

--Kynn

]]> By: vinay venkatesh http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2350 vinay venkatesh Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:50:18 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2350 If you really want keyboard navigation and shortcuts, mac users should check out quickeys. When I was using 9 that was the product I used, because unless I am playing a game, or messing around with photoshop, I stay at the keyboard (even in the finder). My only complaint is that there is no way to move files using the keyboard. I can copy them, but not move them. That said, my environment lends itself to the keyboard. I don't know how one can complain about a lack of keyboad shortcuts on the mac. Granted you may have to buy a couple products like launchbar or what not, but it's defnitely possible! If you really want keyboard navigation and shortcuts, mac users should check out quickeys. When I was using 9 that was the product I used, because unless I am playing a game, or messing around with photoshop, I stay at the keyboard (even in the finder). My only complaint is that there is no way to move files using the keyboard. I can copy them, but not move them.

That said, my environment lends itself to the keyboard. I don't know how one can complain about a lack of keyboad shortcuts on the mac. Granted you may have to buy a couple products like launchbar or what not, but it's defnitely possible!

]]> By: Clint http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2349 Clint Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:08:37 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2349 I'm not quite sure where you get the assertation that Ctrl-A is inconsistent on PCs. Ctrl-A seems to work everywhere I expect and everywhere I need. Perhaps there a specific application you have in mind? I'm not quite sure where you get the assertation that Ctrl-A is inconsistent on PCs. Ctrl-A seems to work everywhere I expect and everywhere I need. Perhaps there a specific application you have in mind?

]]> By: Etan http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2348 Etan Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:40 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2348 Yes, there is keyboard navigation included in the user preferences under accessablility, though it isn't as good as that which exists in Windows, sadly. Yes, there is keyboard navigation included in the user preferences under accessablility, though it isn't as good as that which exists in Windows, sadly.

]]> By: Quarter Life Crisis http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2353 Quarter Life Crisis Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:21:28 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2353 <strong>Yes and No</strong> Shortcuts via NSLog(); a comment on OSX's keyboard shortcuts. The world surely waited for my opinion on that, and... Yes and No

Shortcuts via NSLog(); a comment on OSX's keyboard shortcuts. The world surely waited for my opinion on that, and...

]]> By: Arcterex http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts#comment-2347 Arcterex Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:46:29 +0000 http://nslog.com/2003/04/22/keyboard_shortcuts/#comment-2347 I'm a recent mac user for the first time in... well, since computers at schools came for a couple of months at a time in a mobile lab (portable) and was filled with apple IIs and I thought carmen sandiego was the coolest thing ever. Anyway, while playing with a little imac I aquired, I noticed that while some keyboard nav is supported, not all is. Most notably is in the "connect to server" dialog in the finder, where you can tab from workgroup to user to password but NOT to the 'add to keychain' checkbox (which doesn't seem to work anyway). If there was no kbnv, cool, full kbnav, cool, but none of this half and half stuff. I seem to remember something mentioned somewhere about turning full kbnav on from somewhere in the prefs (assessibility?) but never got that far into it. I'm a recent mac user for the first time in... well, since computers at schools came for a couple of months at a time in a mobile lab (portable) and was filled with apple IIs and I thought carmen sandiego was the coolest thing ever.

Anyway, while playing with a little imac I aquired, I noticed that while some keyboard nav is supported, not all is. Most notably is in the "connect to server" dialog in the finder, where you can tab from workgroup to user to password but NOT to the 'add to keychain' checkbox (which doesn't seem to work anyway). If there was no kbnv, cool, full kbnav, cool, but none of this half and half stuff.

I seem to remember something mentioned somewhere about turning full kbnav on from somewhere in the prefs (assessibility?) but never got that far into it.

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