Comments on: Suicide Girls http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:23:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Sina http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-41065 Sina Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:03:15 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-41065 Honestly, the amount of time a woman spends devoted on making herself look nice isn't really the point. The problem lies in the woman's motivation in achieving the ideal look they believe the mainstream will like. I find that suicide girl-types are less likely to actually care what MOST people think and can then express themselves in their own way. In doing so, they lower their chances of finding a partner, true, but most prefer it that way. Personally, I'm more flattered by compliments regarding my intelligence rather than my looks. This is not to say that I don't spend any time on making myself look nice, but I just don't feel the need to grow my hair out and go back to my natural blonde hair just to get more attention. Honestly, the amount of time a woman spends devoted on making herself look nice isn't really the point. The problem lies in the woman's motivation in achieving the ideal look they believe the mainstream will like. I find that suicide girl-types are less likely to actually care what MOST people think and can then express themselves in their own way. In doing so, they lower their chances of finding a partner, true, but most prefer it that way. Personally, I'm more flattered by compliments regarding my intelligence rather than my looks. This is not to say that I don't spend any time on making myself look nice, but I just don't feel the need to grow my hair out and go back to my natural blonde hair just to get more attention.

]]> By: Jo http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-40980 Jo Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:09:30 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-40980 "they dont go to the salon 2wice a month to get their roots done" Hmmm.....they may be tattooed and "individual" but I'm quite sure they spend just as much time at the salon as the "6ft blondes" that everyone keeps going on about. Don't over-estimate women. "they dont go to the salon 2wice a month to get their roots done"

Hmmm.....they may be tattooed and "individual" but I'm quite sure they spend just as much time at the salon as the "6ft blondes" that everyone keeps going on about. Don't over-estimate women.

]]> By: bob http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-40915 bob Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:01:57 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-40915 You dirty mother fuckers have nothing better to do than just sit around on your fucking computers all fuckin day and slam on peolple just because they have tattoos or they wear too much make-up, FUCK YOU. The only reason you don't like them is because they won't talk to your nerdy, pocket protector, treky ass so fuck off and leave people alone. We are all human we can make our own plans and do what ever we want that is what is so great about being human, try it for a change you worthless piece of shit. :evil: You dirty mother fuckers have nothing better to do than just sit around on your fucking computers all fuckin day and slam on peolple just because they have tattoos or they wear too much make-up, FUCK YOU. The only reason you don't like them is because they won't talk to your nerdy, pocket protector, treky ass so fuck off and leave people alone. We are all human we can make our own plans and do what ever we want that is what is so great about being human, try it for a change you worthless piece of shit. :evil:

]]> By: Andrea http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-40225 Andrea Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:10:31 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-40225 Suicide girls - a nice concept if it's about a different set of beauty standards. I too was sick of 6ft tall blonde models being the only standard of beauty BUT - I can't get used to the name "suicide" what's the purpose of this name? IS that the highest goal here - to leave the planet? I wouldn't mind joining the site - but I just find the "suicide" name offensive knowing what pain it causes family and friends. Some people have their own issues. YOu can't blame, parents, friends, society, exes for everything. Sure there is bad luck and abuse but very many people in America are famous for making poor choices and then blaming everyone else for the consequences. Suicide girls - a nice concept if it's about a different set of beauty standards. I too was sick of 6ft tall blonde models being the only standard of beauty BUT - I can't get used to the name "suicide" what's the purpose of this name? IS that the highest goal here - to leave the planet? I wouldn't mind joining the site - but I just find the "suicide" name offensive knowing what pain it causes family and friends. Some people have their own issues. YOu can't blame, parents, friends, society, exes for everything. Sure there is bad luck and abuse but very many people in America are famous for making poor choices and then blaming everyone else for the consequences.

]]> By: Bonnie http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-39868 Bonnie Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:56:11 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-39868 the suicide girls are gorgeous all of them look different and if u dont like them then go back to playboy or somthing but dont make a big deal out of it. i think there hot and no im not bi or lesbian i just like to see people being themselves! the suicide girls are gorgeous all of them look different and if u dont like them then go back to playboy or somthing but dont make a big deal out of it. i think there hot and no im not bi or lesbian i just like to see people being themselves!

]]> By: Sina http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-39452 Sina Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:27:09 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-39452 I agree with Mr. Barzeski on one thing. The women in the picture is not appealing, simply because she's not my type. Although, I do find her more attractive than bleach blonde bimbos with huge silicone/saline injected boobs, because at least the suicide girl is following her own sense of style. Some may say it's just as conformist, but at least it's not dictated by a woman's desire to feel validated by the "mainstream" man. Initially, I was impressed by the Suicide Girls website. Being a woman myself, I love seeing other like women who don't feel the need to abide by the mainstream notion of what's beautiful. As I continued perusing the site though, I began to notice something. Many of the women are very attractive, but some of the photography really lacks. Most people focus their attention on the women, but seeing electrical outlets and other random junk in the pictures is just plain distracting. Also, certain angles and poses are not very flattering. It doesn't seem to be on purpose to try and make these women seem more real. It just seems to be a lack of attention to detail. Anyway, happy hunting to all of you. I agree with Mr. Barzeski on one thing. The women in the picture is not appealing, simply because she's not my type. Although, I do find her more attractive than bleach blonde bimbos with huge silicone/saline injected boobs, because at least the suicide girl is following her own sense of style. Some may say it's just as conformist, but at least it's not dictated by a woman's desire to feel validated by the "mainstream" man.
Initially, I was impressed by the Suicide Girls website. Being a woman myself, I love seeing other like women who don't feel the need to abide by the mainstream notion of what's beautiful. As I continued perusing the site though, I began to notice something. Many of the women are very attractive, but some of the photography really lacks. Most people focus their attention on the women, but seeing electrical outlets and other random junk in the pictures is just plain distracting. Also, certain angles and poses are not very flattering. It doesn't seem to be on purpose to try and make these women seem more real. It just seems to be a lack of attention to detail.
Anyway, happy hunting to all of you.

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-7632 Erik J. Barzeski Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:10:39 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-7632 Right. Because I don't like tattoos I don't like art. Get real. Right. Because I don't like tattoos I don't like art. Get real.

]]> By: stephen http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-7631 stephen Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:41:26 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-7631 My take on this: You don't appreciate art or even know what art is. Art is a form of expression. Suicide girls are mostly artistic (way more than the blondies with fake boobs that you look at in playboy) and UNIQUE. There's only 1 of each. To me, that is awesome. I don't wanna see clones. I want to see diversity and uniqueness. Uniqueness is sexy! Art is sexy! My take on this: You don't appreciate art or even know what art is. Art is a form of expression. Suicide girls are mostly artistic (way more than the blondies with fake boobs that you look at in playboy) and UNIQUE. There's only 1 of each. To me, that is awesome. I don't wanna see clones. I want to see diversity and uniqueness. Uniqueness is sexy! Art is sexy!

]]> By: Calvin http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-7630 Calvin Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:21:14 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-7630 Shut up. These girls are hot. Shut up. These girls are hot.

]]> By: evolution http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls#comment-7629 evolution Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:17:34 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/02/19/suicide_girls/#comment-7629 I stumbled on this, and its been months since a comment, but anyways, better than writing manuscripts. The truth is that at Suicide Girls there isn't some kind of formula as to what defines a Suicide Girl, like Jaded was implying. Some have no tatoos or piercings at all, some are "heavier" than others. Some could even be considered that "girl next door", others are the total polar opposite. Granted, theres no 200-250lb girls that I've seen, but then, considering how beyond a healthy weight by any standards that would be, it would be a little excessive. Its only one more step to claim that something is more mainstream because all the models have all their limbs, since those who are diabled are still an equal part of our society, or at least ideally should be considered as such. Defining what is and isn't mainstream is essentially impossible, since it changes so quickly and is often even too subjective to really clarify. Regardless, the "average" girl/woman does not have tatoos (let alone visable), piercings, or has/would posed nude. Considering that any of those 3 elements on their own would put the Suicide Girls into a small minority, any combination of the 3 just makes it an even smaller group, not too mention how many people likely subscribe to the site in comparison to the sales or subscription numbers of any "mainstream" publication. I think that keeps it enough away from being mainstream. If you go to any convenience store, and look at whats on the top shelf, how many feature goth/punk/'alternative' girls? The 'clean' (well...) look blonde is still the definitive mainstream, just look at how many girls with dark (or non-blonde) hair have dyed their hair blonde when you walk down any street. I doubt many natural blondes have become artificial brunettes. The bottom line, is that if Suicide Girls features types of models that you cannot find in any mainstream publication or website, then it is undeniably providing an alternate choice to what otherwise would be the only thing available. Simply because there are cliches within that alternative in no way discredits that aternative. Afterall, all cliches and stereotypes are created from some form of truth. I stumbled on this, and its been months since a comment, but anyways, better than writing manuscripts.

The truth is that at Suicide Girls there isn't some kind of formula as to what defines a Suicide Girl, like Jaded was implying. Some have no tatoos or piercings at all, some are "heavier" than others. Some could even be considered that "girl next door", others are the total polar opposite.

Granted, theres no 200-250lb girls that I've seen, but then, considering how beyond a healthy weight by any standards that would be, it would be a little excessive. Its only one more step to claim that something is more mainstream because all the models have all their limbs, since those who are diabled are still an equal part of our society, or at least ideally should be considered as such.

Defining what is and isn't mainstream is essentially impossible, since it changes so quickly and is often even too subjective to really clarify. Regardless, the "average" girl/woman does not have tatoos (let alone visable), piercings, or has/would posed nude. Considering that any of those 3 elements on their own would put the Suicide Girls into a small minority, any combination of the 3 just makes it an even smaller group, not too mention how many people likely subscribe to the site in comparison to the sales or subscription numbers of any "mainstream" publication. I think that keeps it enough away from being mainstream.

If you go to any convenience store, and look at whats on the top shelf, how many feature goth/punk/'alternative' girls? The 'clean' (well...) look blonde is still the definitive mainstream, just look at how many girls with dark (or non-blonde) hair have dyed their hair blonde when you walk down any street. I doubt many natural blondes have become artificial brunettes.

The bottom line, is that if Suicide Girls features types of models that you cannot find in any mainstream publication or website, then it is undeniably providing an alternate choice to what otherwise would be the only thing available. Simply because there are cliches within that alternative in no way discredits that aternative. Afterall, all cliches and stereotypes are created from some form of truth.

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