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		<title>By: Ãƒâ€“lbaum's Delirium</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9367</link>
		<dc:creator>Ãƒâ€“lbaum's Delirium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2004 20:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Word 2004 scrolling&lt;/strong&gt;

I installed Office 2004 today (we have a campus license at work, I&#8217;m not giving any money to Microsoft) and mouse wheel scrolling in Word is so broken that it&#8217;s unusable. Scrolling up works as it should but scrolling down...
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<p>I installed Office 2004 today (we have a campus license at work, I&#8217;m not giving any money to Microsoft) and mouse wheel scrolling in Word is so broken that it&#8217;s unusable. Scrolling up works as it should but scrolling down...</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Ruff</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9365</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Ruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good &quot;Recent Conversations&quot; custom arrangement in Entourage 2004 is:



Group items by: Subject

Sort groups by: Sent, Newest on top

Sort items within group by: Sent, Newest on top

Default display for groups: Expanded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good "Recent Conversations" custom arrangement in Entourage 2004 is:</p>
<p>Group items by: Subject</p>
<p>Sort groups by: Sent, Newest on top</p>
<p>Sort items within group by: Sent, Newest on top</p>
<p>Default display for groups: Expanded</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Friedman</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9364</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 23:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A solution to your message sorting issue



I figured out how to get the behavior You and I wanted, but it isn&#039;t as strait forward as it should be. First, I chose View -&gt; Arrange By -&gt; Edit Custom Arrangements. The Custom Arrangements: Mail window opens.



From here I can click New, give it a title and set the group arrangement to Date Received. In the Third menu, I chose Newest On Top. This sets it to the way it has been all along - sorting the items in the group by Date Sent, Oldest on Top! When I tell it to sort the items in the group, Date Received is disabled. Why? Because I used it to sort the group.* Well I found an alternative that appears to give me the correct behavior - most of the time. Sort items in group by Priority, with Highest on top.



Now that I&#039;ve created a custom Arrangement, I can choose View -&gt; Arrange By -&gt; &lt;title of custom arrangement I set above&gt;. Since I almost never get email with a non-normal priority, my email sorts as expected - most recently received email on top. If I do get a higher than normal priority email, it&#039;ll find itself sorted to the top of the group (not that big of a deal) and if it&#039;s a lower priority email, I&#039;ll never see it because it will jump to the bottom of the group. :)



*Microsoft just loves to provide me with roadblocks! I wonder what the logic is behind preventing me from sorting the items in a group in the same order as the group itself is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solution to your message sorting issue</p>
<p>I figured out how to get the behavior You and I wanted, but it isn't as strait forward as it should be. First, I chose View -&gt; Arrange By -&gt; Edit Custom Arrangements. The Custom Arrangements: Mail window opens.</p>
<p>From here I can click New, give it a title and set the group arrangement to Date Received. In the Third menu, I chose Newest On Top. This sets it to the way it has been all along - sorting the items in the group by Date Sent, Oldest on Top! When I tell it to sort the items in the group, Date Received is disabled. Why? Because I used it to sort the group.* Well I found an alternative that appears to give me the correct behavior - most of the time. Sort items in group by Priority, with Highest on top.</p>
<p>Now that I've created a custom Arrangement, I can choose View -&gt; Arrange By -&gt; &lt;title of custom arrangement I set above&gt;. Since I almost never get email with a non-normal priority, my email sorts as expected - most recently received email on top. If I do get a higher than normal priority email, it'll find itself sorted to the top of the group (not that big of a deal) and if it's a lower priority email, I'll never see it because it will jump to the bottom of the group. <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*Microsoft just loves to provide me with roadblocks! I wonder what the logic is behind preventing me from sorting the items in a group in the same order as the group itself is...</p>
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		<title>By: timothy hartman</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9363</link>
		<dc:creator>timothy hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 11:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel like ms went about 50/50 on Entourage in terms of marrying the outlook interface with the AHIG. i really think it is truly a bastard program that is no good for me. the rules on it were childish and did not behave how i like them without me manually running them. I know that carbon can be good, but i think sticking to cocoa apps for email and web seem to be the way to go. i cannot go without cocoa suite or my services, and entourage bombs where mail thrives.



i also don&#039;t like how it has a half version of most of the apple iApps. it kind of has a calendar, kind of an address book and kind does email. I just think it is totally icky and to be avoided. if you need a good mail program and you are going to be paying for it i would think mailsmith would be the way to go, especially if you like bbedit. I try to avoid carbon apps like the plague if there is a cocoa alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel like ms went about 50/50 on Entourage in terms of marrying the outlook interface with the AHIG. i really think it is truly a bastard program that is no good for me. the rules on it were childish and did not behave how i like them without me manually running them. I know that carbon can be good, but i think sticking to cocoa apps for email and web seem to be the way to go. i cannot go without cocoa suite or my services, and entourage bombs where mail thrives.</p>
<p>i also don't like how it has a half version of most of the apple iApps. it kind of has a calendar, kind of an address book and kind does email. I just think it is totally icky and to be avoided. if you need a good mail program and you are going to be paying for it i would think mailsmith would be the way to go, especially if you like bbedit. I try to avoid carbon apps like the plague if there is a cocoa alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9362</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 09:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, Entourage shouldn&#039;t &quot;support ligatures&quot; in a fixed-width font in email (at least, not until gcc can cope with ligatured #define statements :)). That&#039;s not what I meant. It&#039;s just that I&#039;ve had to use Word v.X a bit in the last few weeks and being used to LaTeX, InDesign and TextEdit, I can&#039;t bear unligatured fi&#039;s in printed documents anymore (heck, ligatures were invented for a reason, and this reason is that an fi without ligature in a serif font on paper is fucking ugly). So I was hoping the misplaced ligatures in Entourage meant well-placed ligatures in Word too.



Note that at least in TextEdit, hitting delete after a ligatured fi breaks the ligature and only deletes the i (and you can turn ligatures off from the font panel). If Microsoft didn&#039;t understand that this is the only decent behaviour here, they deserve a proper punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Entourage shouldn't "support ligatures" in a fixed-width font in email (at least, not until gcc can cope with ligatured #define statements <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). That's not what I meant. It's just that I've had to use Word v.X a bit in the last few weeks and being used to LaTeX, InDesign and TextEdit, I can't bear unligatured fi's in printed documents anymore (heck, ligatures were invented for a reason, and this reason is that an fi without ligature in a serif font on paper is fucking ugly). So I was hoping the misplaced ligatures in Entourage meant well-placed ligatures in Word too.</p>
<p>Note that at least in TextEdit, hitting delete after a ligatured fi breaks the ligature and only deletes the i (and you can turn ligatures off from the font panel). If Microsoft didn't understand that this is the only decent behaviour here, they deserve a proper punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Ruess</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9361</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Ruess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 02:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I had really high hopes for the Project Center thingamajig. The idea of being able to have a unified center where I can see all the appointments, tasks, email, and contacts that deal with any one small project in either school or business is enticing.



Sadly, Project Center does not live up to my expectations. I might have been expecting too much, and I might not have given it enough time yet, but hopefully I can use it for something.



But I do like Entourage&#039;s &quot;Preview Pane on Right&quot; in the same way that Office 2003 for Windows currently does it. It seems much more open, and I&#039;m not forced to scroll down a tiny 5 line tall list of all my emails. I see 20 emails on the left side, and see the full page-layout of the email on the right side. I like it a lot. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I had really high hopes for the Project Center thingamajig. The idea of being able to have a unified center where I can see all the appointments, tasks, email, and contacts that deal with any one small project in either school or business is enticing.</p>
<p>Sadly, Project Center does not live up to my expectations. I might have been expecting too much, and I might not have given it enough time yet, but hopefully I can use it for something.</p>
<p>But I do like Entourage's "Preview Pane on Right" in the same way that Office 2003 for Windows currently does it. It seems much more open, and I'm not forced to scroll down a tiny 5 line tall list of all my emails. I see 20 emails on the left side, and see the full page-layout of the email on the right side. I like it a lot. <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Buchheim</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9360</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Buchheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm.  I&#039;ve never used labels for email (I prefer to just file things in folders) but Mail does have the ability to set both the text color and background color of a message in the message list.  This can be done automatically with a rule, and I think it can also be done with Applescript so you could build your own &quot;label&quot; menu items in the script menu.



Mail is actually one of the few programs where I really like its use of a drawer (of course, I have at least 20 folders for my mail, and three different accounts).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm.  I've never used labels for email (I prefer to just file things in folders) but Mail does have the ability to set both the text color and background color of a message in the message list.  This can be done automatically with a rule, and I think it can also be done with Applescript so you could build your own "label" menu items in the script menu.</p>
<p>Mail is actually one of the few programs where I really like its use of a drawer (of course, I have at least 20 folders for my mail, and three different accounts).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9359</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PulpFiction has labels. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PulpFiction has labels. <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Etan</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9358</link>
		<dc:creator>Etan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is interesting that you don&#039;t use Mail but you designed a newsreader based on its interface.



I personally love Entourage, I can&#039;t live without it. I use it for calendar, address book and email. Office 2004 unfortunately did not update it much, at all, as you have clearly demonstrated.



The spam protection built in is crap, FYI. I like the new look but otherwise I see no reason to upgrade if you only use Entourage (unless, of course, you want to stay up to date on application versions).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is interesting that you don't use Mail but you designed a newsreader based on its interface.</p>
<p>I personally love Entourage, I can't live without it. I use it for calendar, address book and email. Office 2004 unfortunately did not update it much, at all, as you have clearly demonstrated.</p>
<p>The spam protection built in is crap, FYI. I like the new look but otherwise I see no reason to upgrade if you only use Entourage (unless, of course, you want to stay up to date on application versions).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004#comment-9357</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2004 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail annoys the heck out of me, especially the way it wastes all those folders and whatnot in the drawer (plus, I generally don&#039;t like drawers), and I also find its lack of labels to be really, really frustrating. It&#039;s not a &quot;pro&quot; email app. Entourage is, and I&#039;ve yet to find one better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail annoys the heck out of me, especially the way it wastes all those folders and whatnot in the drawer (plus, I generally don't like drawers), and I also find its lack of labels to be really, really frustrating. It's not a "pro" email app. Entourage is, and I've yet to find one better.</p>
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