Comments on: Entourage 2004 Font Fuzzies http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Wed, 23 May 2012 23:05:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dan Crevier http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9381 Dan Crevier Fri, 21 May 2004 05:19:06 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9381 It uses ATSUI. It does not do any of its own anti-aliasing. There's more info <a href="http://mjtsai.com/blog/2004/05/15/entourage_2004">here</a>. I found that Andale Mono 12 point looks great It uses ATSUI. It does not do any of its own anti-aliasing. There's more info here. I found that Andale Mono 12 point looks great

]]> By: Brendan http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9380 Brendan Thu, 20 May 2004 08:47:50 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9380 Isn't that just the 'cleartype' sub-pixel anitialiasing? The offset near the middle of the line is -.5 pixels or so, so it's stradling the line and you get red-half-of-a-pixel pixel blue-half-of-a-pixel. I think it's ugly... especially on text or anything that skinny. It might make an edge of a big shape smoother, but when you're only dealing with a couple pixels the coloring is very noticeable. ~BS Isn't that just the 'cleartype' sub-pixel anitialiasing? The offset near the middle of the line is -.5 pixels or so, so it's stradling the line and you get red-half-of-a-pixel pixel blue-half-of-a-pixel.

I think it's ugly... especially on text or anything that skinny. It might make an edge of a big shape smoother, but when you're only dealing with a couple pixels the coloring is very noticeable.

~BS

]]> By: Nate Friedman http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9379 Nate Friedman Thu, 20 May 2004 07:38:22 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9379 i don't know if this is related, but Internet Explorer 5, and now Entourage 2004 do some funky stuff with rendering of text in HTML format... to me it looks like a random line or two doesn't get anti-aliased, until i select it. that was one problem i was happy to get rid of when i switched away from IE, and now it's back in Entourage! i don't know if this is related, but Internet Explorer 5, and now Entourage 2004 do some funky stuff with rendering of text in HTML format...

to me it looks like a random line or two doesn't get anti-aliased, until i select it. that was one problem i was happy to get rid of when i switched away from IE, and now it's back in Entourage!

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9378 Erik J. Barzeski Thu, 20 May 2004 03:52:54 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9378 TextEdit uses the Cocoa text renderer, not ATSUI. More to the point: no, it does not have the same problems at all. TextEdit uses the Cocoa text renderer, not ATSUI. More to the point: no, it does not have the same problems at all.

]]> By: Rick Schaut http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9377 Rick Schaut Thu, 20 May 2004 03:28:59 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9377 Since I'm a Word guy, take this with some grain of salt, but Entourage uses Apple's ATSUI to do text rendering. See if same problem occurs in TextEdit using the same font and the same font size. Since I'm a Word guy, take this with some grain of salt, but Entourage uses Apple's ATSUI to do text rendering. See if same problem occurs in TextEdit using the same font and the same font size.

]]> By: Buggin' My Life Away http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9382 Buggin' My Life Away Thu, 20 May 2004 02:51:38 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9382 <strong>re: Mac Office 2004 Launched</strong> re: Mac Office 2004 Launched

]]> By: Kevin Ballard http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9376 Kevin Ballard Wed, 19 May 2004 22:02:01 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9376 Perhaps they've implemented their own subpixel smoothing algorithm that doesn't work right? Perhaps they've implemented their own subpixel smoothing algorithm that doesn't work right?

]]> By: Mark Onyschuk http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies#comment-9375 Mark Onyschuk Wed, 19 May 2004 21:50:44 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/05/19/entourage_2004_font_fuzzies/#comment-9375 At first glance, it looks like some sort of cumulative floating point positioning error - perhaps where the text goes fuzzy, the drawing position is bumped by a round() or something... Would be interesting to see what happens if the window is extra wide - might the text go clear again after a run of similar length? Mark At first glance, it looks like some sort of cumulative floating point positioning error - perhaps where the text goes fuzzy, the drawing position is bumped by a round() or something...

Would be interesting to see what happens if the window is extra wide - might the text go clear again after a run of similar length?

Mark

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