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	<title>Comments on: C++ vs. Obj-C</title>
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		<title>By: Eduardo Ahumada</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9410</link>
		<dc:creator>Eduardo Ahumada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Objective-C++ has three models of programming ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Objective-C++ has three models of programming ?</p>
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		<title>By: 5t453k</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9409</link>
		<dc:creator>5t453k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W&#322;asnie wruci&#322;em z premiery &quot;one Last Dance&quot; i musz&#281; stwierdzi&#263; &#380;e wilm jest kiepski a Swayze si&#281; zestarza&#322; i ma strasznie przepity g&#322;os.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W&#322;asnie wruci&#322;em z premiery "one Last Dance" i musz&#281; stwierdzi&#263; &#380;e wilm jest kiepski a Swayze si&#281; zestarza&#322; i ma strasznie przepity g&#322;os.....</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9408</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, any reasonable programmer should know at least 4-5 programming languages...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, any reasonable programmer should know at least 4-5 programming languages...</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9407</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can program for mac os x, linux, windows, bsd.... on C++ and well objective C I can&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can program for mac os x, linux, windows, bsd.... on C++ and well objective C I can't</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9406</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernesto - &lt;a href=&quot;http://realbasic.com/&quot;&gt;RealBasic&lt;/a&gt; will feel most comfortable coming from Visual Basic, but I think you&#039;ll get more long term value out of Cocoa, particularly if you plan to build bigger apps in the future. Cocoa will also give you the most functionality &quot;for free.&quot;



&lt;a href=&quot;http://cocoadevcentral.com&quot;&gt;Cocoa Dev Central&lt;/a&gt; is a good place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernesto - <a  href="http://realbasic.com/">RealBasic</a> will feel most comfortable coming from Visual Basic, but I think you'll get more long term value out of Cocoa, particularly if you plan to build bigger apps in the future. Cocoa will also give you the most functionality "for free."</p>
<p><a  href="http://cocoadevcentral.com">Cocoa Dev Central</a> is a good place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernesto</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9405</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m switching from Windows to Mac and I&#039;m not a programmer but I use VBasic. What should I learn on Mac to make small software? Obj-C?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm switching from Windows to Mac and I'm not a programmer but I use VBasic. What should I learn on Mac to make small software? Obj-C?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9404</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PulpFiction is largley Obj-C. SQLite is not, of course, and we have some pieces here and there that aren&#039;t as well (libxml, libxslt). Rock Star dips down into C a few times as well. Sometimes it&#039;s orders of magnitude faster. We have, though, very little C++.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PulpFiction is largley Obj-C. SQLite is not, of course, and we have some pieces here and there that aren't as well (libxml, libxslt). Rock Star dips down into C a few times as well. Sometimes it's orders of magnitude faster. We have, though, very little C++.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Anon</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9403</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott,

I think a big part of templates is that they can take fundamental types (float, int, etc.), but in ObjC, only objects can conform to protocols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,</p>
<p>I think a big part of templates is that they can take fundamental types (float, int, etc.), but in ObjC, only objects can conform to protocols.</p>
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		<title>By: Manton Reece</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9402</link>
		<dc:creator>Manton Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m curious about is how many major Cocoa applications use Objective-C exclusively. Is PulpFiction all Objective-C (other than parts like the SQLite library)? What about the big Apple apps? The Omni stuff?



Personally I&#039;m not a big fan of some of the Foundation containers, so having C++ and the STL available is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I'm curious about is how many major Cocoa applications use Objective-C exclusively. Is PulpFiction all Objective-C (other than parts like the SQLite library)? What about the big Apple apps? The Omni stuff?</p>
<p>Personally I'm not a big fan of some of the Foundation containers, so having C++ and the STL available is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Stevenson</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/c_vs_objc#comment-9401</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 02:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t written anything significant in C++ and have never used templates, but based on what I&#039;ve seen about the syntax, don&#039;t protocols cover the same ground in Objective-C?



- (id) somethingFromNothing: (id &lt;Nothing&gt;)object;



In this case, you can use any object that conforms to the &quot;Nothing&quot; protocol. Is that relevant here?



    - Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't written anything significant in C++ and have never used templates, but based on what I've seen about the syntax, don't protocols cover the same ground in Objective-C?</p>
<p>- (id) somethingFromNothing: (id &lt;Nothing&gt;)object;</p>
<p>In this case, you can use any object that conforms to the "Nothing" protocol. Is that relevant here?</p>
<p>    - Scott</p>
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