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	<title>Comments on: QotD: 10.4</title>
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		<title>By: Caleb Jaffa</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9417</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb Jaffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 20:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the recent news that the development was going to slow down is a good indicator not to expect too much time wise for Tiger.  It will be previewed as announced at WWDC, but no one is going to leave with CDs in hand like with Panther.  (Which I wish was otherwise since this is my first WWDC)  I&#039;m thinking that it will get released around the January expo.  The slowdown is a good thing now that it is stable and has some polish.  Otherwise you will have the classic/OS X fracturing problems, I know there is some programs that require 10.3 to run, but there are those that still haven&#039;t upgraded to Panther yet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the recent news that the development was going to slow down is a good indicator not to expect too much time wise for Tiger.  It will be previewed as announced at WWDC, but no one is going to leave with CDs in hand like with Panther.  (Which I wish was otherwise since this is my first WWDC)  I'm thinking that it will get released around the January expo.  The slowdown is a good thing now that it is stable and has some polish.  Otherwise you will have the classic/OS X fracturing problems, I know there is some programs that require 10.3 to run, but there are those that still haven't upgraded to Panther yet.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9416</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 12:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vinay: what serious issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vinay: what serious issues?</p>
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		<title>By: ap</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9415</link>
		<dc:creator>ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 07:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that Panther still has a huge amount of localization-related bugs, and Apple rarely fixes those in point releases, I&#039;d say that the sooner the better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that Panther still has a huge amount of localization-related bugs, and Apple rarely fixes those in point releases, I'd say that the sooner the better...</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Buchheim</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9414</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Buchheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that it will be sometime between November and January.  There are some things I&#039;d like to see in an update between now and then, but most of the things I want are big enough that they probably won&#039;t show up until 10.4.  (Apple seems not to want to add anything to Cocoa in maintenance updates, except the occasional minor bug fix.  It seems like Carbon occasionally gets updates in the minor releases, though.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that it will be sometime between November and January.  There are some things I'd like to see in an update between now and then, but most of the things I want are big enough that they probably won't show up until 10.4.  (Apple seems not to want to add anything to Cocoa in maintenance updates, except the occasional minor bug fix.  It seems like Carbon occasionally gets updates in the minor releases, though.)</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Cottingham</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9413</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Cottingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see. I finally upgraded to 10.3 last week, which means that the amnesty period (&quot;buy 10.3 after this date, and the upgrade to 10.4 is free&quot;) starts... now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let's see. I finally upgraded to 10.3 last week, which means that the amnesty period ("buy 10.3 after this date, and the upgrade to 10.4 is free") starts... now.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinay Venkatesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinay Venkatesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with erik.  But I think that march 2005 is a bit far.  Panther is pretty nice, but there are some serious issues that need to be addressed with MAJOR code changes.  Not with point releases.  My hope is that anytime November/December would be a good time.  This also keeps in time with Apple&#039;s gradual slowing of the release pace.  10.0-10.1 (six months), 10.1-10.2 (10 months) 10.2-10.3 (12 months) 



I think those numbers are right :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with erik.  But I think that march 2005 is a bit far.  Panther is pretty nice, but there are some serious issues that need to be addressed with MAJOR code changes.  Not with point releases.  My hope is that anytime November/December would be a good time.  This also keeps in time with Apple's gradual slowing of the release pace.  10.0-10.1 (six months), 10.1-10.2 (10 months) 10.2-10.3 (12 months) </p>
<p>I think those numbers are right <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: timothy hartman</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/05/20/qotd_104#comment-9411</link>
		<dc:creator>timothy hartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2004 02:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i vote that they will try to put it out in the fall, with developer copies released again at wwdc. i vote big server release and refinements of new interface. xsan, xgrid and spoken interface i think will find there home in 10.4 and not to far from the big show. i think they will be more on time than last round with being on schedule as well.



that could just be my hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i vote that they will try to put it out in the fall, with developer copies released again at wwdc. i vote big server release and refinements of new interface. xsan, xgrid and spoken interface i think will find there home in 10.4 and not to far from the big show. i think they will be more on time than last round with being on schedule as well.</p>
<p>that could just be my hope.</p>
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