Comments on: TextMate http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:40:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TextMate, the Redux | NSLog(); http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11640 TextMate, the Redux | NSLog(); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:48:54 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11640 When I last wrote about TextMate, I commented on its lack of preferences and, essentially, shelved the idea of using TextMate because of it. Today I grabbed the latest beta and gave it a whirl. I was perhaps 30 minutes... When I last wrote about TextMate, I commented on its lack of preferences and, essentially, shelved the idea of using TextMate because of it. Today I grabbed the latest beta and gave it a whirl. I was perhaps 30 minutes...

]]> By: Chris Burkhardt http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11636 Chris Burkhardt Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:49:09 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11636 I just found Peter Borg's <a href="http://smultron.sourceforge.net/">Smultron</a> the other day. It is Free (GPL), does syntax coloring, line numbering, good search (including regular expressions), tabs and projects, and some other nice things (written to Cocoa so nice and Mac-like). It doesn't have many key-bindings, nor is it very extensible, but I've found it to be a nice open-source replacement for SubEthaEdit (since I never used the collaborative feature of SEE anyway). I just found Peter Borg's Smultron the other day. It is Free (GPL), does syntax coloring, line numbering, good search (including regular expressions), tabs and projects, and some other nice things (written to Cocoa so nice and Mac-like).

It doesn't have many key-bindings, nor is it very extensible, but I've found it to be a nice open-source replacement for SubEthaEdit (since I never used the collaborative feature of SEE anyway).

]]> By: RLD http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11635 RLD Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:09:24 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11635 The only editor that I'm completely comfortable with is FTE (folding text editor). I have used it on OS/2, Windows, and now Mac via X11 & Fink. Syntax highlighting for multiple programming languages, create your own highlighting for for any language you choose or add to the defaults. Use Tags and any IDE you want. Just wish there was a native port without having to load X11. The only editor that I'm completely comfortable with is FTE (folding text editor). I have used it on OS/2, Windows, and now Mac via X11 & Fink. Syntax highlighting for multiple programming languages, create your own highlighting for for any language you choose or add to the defaults. Use Tags and any IDE you want. Just wish there was a native port without having to load X11.

]]> By: 4mix http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11634 4mix Fri, 08 Oct 2004 10:39:55 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11634 There was so much hype about this editor... The hype is over - TextMate sucks. And they want $39 (50) for it... Come on! Seriously if someone wants a serious editor, why not choose Emacs or Vi? Both vi(m) and (x)emacs have the most powerful feature set and you can set them up as you damn like... Anyway, those editors have been developed since the 70's... The other thing I really don't understand is why people are so much in love in BBEdit -!? $180 for a lousy click-interface!? Anyway, the reason could be because you guys haven't "tried" anything else - I mean Vim or Emacs can look harsh because there are no menus or icons - - but you don't need them... It is much easier to type a simple keystroke than going through menus. Anyway, Vim or Emacs can't be learned in 1 day... It takes a lot of patience and practice - I have used vim for some months now and I still learn things. The reason of this is that they are so powerful, and not because they are badly built! But after you learned one of them you won't look after a new editor - because no "new" editor can match them. They are like the Rolls Royce of editors... So, if you really don't want to spend $180 on BBEdit and want the best editors then choose Vim or Emacs. You can find lots of tutorials, books etc. that can help you on your way to a better editor. Ok ;) There was so much hype about this editor... The hype is over - TextMate sucks. And they want $39 (50) for it... Come on!

Seriously if someone wants a serious editor, why not choose Emacs or Vi? Both vi(m) and (x)emacs have the most powerful feature set and you can set them up as you damn like... Anyway, those editors have been developed since the 70's...

The other thing I really don't understand is why people are so much in love in BBEdit -!? $180 for a lousy click-interface!? Anyway, the reason could be because you guys haven't "tried" anything else - I mean Vim or Emacs can look harsh because there are no menus or icons - - but you don't need them... It is much easier to type a simple keystroke than going through menus.

Anyway, Vim or Emacs can't be learned in 1 day... It takes a lot of patience and practice - I have used vim for some months now and I still learn things. The reason of this is that they are so powerful, and not because they are badly built! But after you learned one of them you won't look after a new editor - because no "new" editor can match them. They are like the Rolls Royce of editors... So, if you really don't want to spend $180 on BBEdit and want the best editors then choose Vim or Emacs. You can find lots of tutorials, books etc. that can help you on your way to a better editor.

Ok ;)

]]> By: John http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11633 John Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:18:11 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11633 Text edit definitely has a few shortcomings. I think it crashed on me like 3 times yesterday. BBEdit is nice, but...not $180 nice, not for what I use it for. I've been searching for a text editor for OSX that is flexible, has lots of key bindings, and is a little more friendly than Vim. TextMate certainly has the ability to mature into a great text editor, and between it and Vim, I've got my bases covered. :) Text edit definitely has a few shortcomings. I think it crashed on me like 3 times yesterday. BBEdit is nice, but...not $180 nice, not for what I use it for. I've been searching for a text editor for OSX that is flexible, has lots of key bindings, and is a little more friendly than Vim. TextMate certainly has the ability to mature into a great text editor, and between it and Vim, I've got my bases covered. :)

]]> By: Jeremy's Little Corner Of The Web... http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11639 Jeremy's Little Corner Of The Web... Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:48:07 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11639 <strong>TextMate</strong> TextMate, a new editor for MacOS X, was released today. It includes some features that (I think) are quite novel. One of these is called "triggers". Triggers allow you to type a shortcut to text that you use frequently (such as an "a href" tag)... TextMate

TextMate, a new editor for MacOS X, was released today.

It includes some features that (I think) are quite novel. One of these is called "triggers". Triggers allow you to type a shortcut to text that you use frequently (such as an "a href" tag)...

]]> By: Dustin Sacks http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11632 Dustin Sacks Thu, 07 Oct 2004 01:06:43 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11632 Weeeeeeee! Xcode, BBEdit and emacs make up my text editing trinity as well. They are all awesome in their own ways. Weeeeeeee! Xcode, BBEdit and emacs make up my text editing trinity as well. They are all awesome in their own ways.

]]> By: Brad http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11631 Brad Thu, 07 Oct 2004 00:10:30 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11631 <a href="http://macromates.com/blog/archives/2004/10/06/wheres-my-beloved-preference-window/">Yuck</a>, that's why there's no preferences. Just because I turn off soft-wrapping when viewing leaks dumps doesn't mean I want it off for everything else. There are some ugly key bindings too. cmd-tab for shift left and shift right??? From the little time I've played with it, it doesn't look like it'll get a place in my trinity of Xcode, BBEdit, and emacs. Yuck, that's why there's no preferences. Just because I turn off soft-wrapping when viewing leaks dumps doesn't mean I want it off for everything else. There are some ugly key bindings too. cmd-tab for shift left and shift right???

From the little time I've played with it, it doesn't look like it'll get a place in my trinity of Xcode, BBEdit, and emacs.

]]> By: Clint Ecker http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11630 Clint Ecker Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:53:44 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11630 Eric I tried out TextMate this morning and I had syntax highlighting in my PHP scripts. See: <a href="http://clintology.com/external/textmate_colors.jpg">http://clintology.com/external/textmate_colors.jpg</a> Eric I tried out TextMate this morning and I had syntax highlighting in my PHP scripts. See: http://clintology.com/external/textmate_colors.jpg

]]> By: Ralph Scheuer http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate#comment-11629 Ralph Scheuer Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:25:56 +0000 http://nslog.com/2004/10/06/textmate/#comment-11629 Yeah, editors - the oldest reason for a good flame war ;-) As a WebObjects developer, I am still unable to say good things about editors. For me, it is XCode all the way. I hate using Java IDEs and editors for programming. Netbeans offers some nice features, some love eclipse, but I loathe the complexity of the latter and the speed of both - gotta hate it when you hack faster than the display refreshes. For config files, I use pico, for small HTML snippets and shell scripts I have sometimes used BBEdit, for the bigger things Dreamweaver. I like BBEdit's regex ability for some things but I must say that I still cannot understand what's so magic about text editors and I simply can't imagine where I might need a tabbed editor. Where's the magic? I don't get it. Yeah, editors - the oldest reason for a good flame war ;-) As a WebObjects developer, I am still unable to say good things about editors. For me, it is XCode all the way. I hate using Java IDEs and editors for programming. Netbeans offers some nice features, some love eclipse, but I loathe the complexity of the latter and the speed of both - gotta hate it when you hack faster than the display refreshes.

For config files, I use pico, for small HTML snippets and shell scripts I have sometimes used BBEdit, for the bigger things Dreamweaver. I like BBEdit's regex ability for some things but I must say that I still cannot understand what's so magic about text editors and I simply can't imagine where I might need a tabbed editor. Where's the magic? I don't get it.

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