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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-24377</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it is funny that i typed &quot;fucking stupid&quot; into a google bar and this is what came up...weird huh try it....

type in google backwards (elgoog) and google will be backwords make shure you click on &quot;I&#039;m feeling lucky to make it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is funny that i typed "fucking stupid" into a google bar and this is what came up...weird huh try it....</p>
<p>type in google backwards (elgoog) and google will be backwords make shure you click on "I'm feeling lucky to make it work.</p>
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		<title>By: beckrin</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12313</link>
		<dc:creator>beckrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 01:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today&#039;s Empires, Tomorrow&#039;s Ashes&quot; They American economy is going to crash, just look at the market, you can see how greed has got you really far in the world economy, I mean If only a few selected people took thier money out of the banks you would be fucked instantly,they don&#039;t even live in your country so they wouldn&#039;t give a shit ether it&#039;s actually kinda sad anyway you do the math!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes" They American economy is going to crash, just look at the market, you can see how greed has got you really far in the world economy, I mean If only a few selected people took thier money out of the banks you would be fucked instantly,they don't even live in your country so they wouldn't give a shit ether it's actually kinda sad anyway you do the math!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12312</link>
		<dc:creator>Cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting for Bush OR Kerry makes you stupid.



Welcum to Amurika!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting for Bush OR Kerry makes you stupid.</p>
<p>Welcum to Amurika!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Breaker</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12311</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Breaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also only observing from the outside looking in and you can disregard my input as you wish.



I am not a US citizen, I am an Australian, a citizen from the â€œrest of the worldâ€.  Yes we were also one of the 3 original countries that sent troops to liberate Iraq.  I wonder whether George W was referring to Australia, UK and the US when he was talking about the axis of evil ;).  And yes we have also recently re-elected that same government that took us to war with an increased majority.  This does not make us stupid, it is how our democracy works.  It is different to the US system, we have compulsory voting across the whole country and we do not have the winner-takes-all system (IMHO you need to get rid of this).  We vote for a local representative and the party/parties that can form a majority coalition forms the government and elects our Prime Minister.  Similar the the Canadian system.



I do not think the debate that you are all having should be about &quot;stupidity&quot; or whether you have elected the correct president or not.  I think you should all be putting your efforts into fighting against the loss of freedoms and liberties that your government is slowly taking from you all.  You should be putting your energies into greater tolerance and greater acceptance of differences between races, idolisms and beliefs.  This is the fight you need to be focusing on both within your borders and the rest of the world. It is your duty as citizens of your country to be every vigilant of what your elected government is doing regardless of whether you are republican or democrat, black or white, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist, etc.   That being said, tolerance and acceptance does not mean conversion or assimilation.  It would be a very dull world if we were all white Anglo Saxon Christian capitalists living in a democratic country.



Since 1999 I have spent about 2 months of every year in the US.  Since 9/11 I have watched as your government has used fear and the so called threat of more terrorist attacks on your country to slowly bring in draconian policies such as the homeland security and patriot acts.  They have started wars in foreign countries based on false information, they have basically undermined the UN and managed to create rifts between countries who were once your allies.  I still wonder how you all as citizens have allowed this to happen.



To give you an idea of how far it has gone from an outsiders point of view, as of the 1st Oct 2004 I cannot enter your country without being finger printed - this applies to all non US citizens except Canadian â€“ are they US citizens? ;) .  I do not have a criminal record, my finger prints are not linked to my passport in any way and this does not validate that I am who I say I am.  I am not a terrorist, I am not a criminal.  I have not even committed a crime.  My finger prints will also be kept on file and I do not have any rights in how my finger prints can be used or to which government agencies they can be used by.  Sorry for being sceptical but this measures is not going to catch a terrorist as a suicide bomber does not go through passport control more than once.  All this measure is doing is leaving a bad taste in the mouths of those who visit your  country.



One piece of advice that I do offer is read the web sites of the foreign press.  Read what the press are saying in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, etc.  It will give you a better perspective on how the policies the US government are affecting the other countries in the world and why there is a growing anti-US cry from the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also only observing from the outside looking in and you can disregard my input as you wish.</p>
<p>I am not a US citizen, I am an Australian, a citizen from the â€œrest of the worldâ€.  Yes we were also one of the 3 original countries that sent troops to liberate Iraq.  I wonder whether George W was referring to Australia, UK and the US when he was talking about the axis of evil <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  And yes we have also recently re-elected that same government that took us to war with an increased majority.  This does not make us stupid, it is how our democracy works.  It is different to the US system, we have compulsory voting across the whole country and we do not have the winner-takes-all system (IMHO you need to get rid of this).  We vote for a local representative and the party/parties that can form a majority coalition forms the government and elects our Prime Minister.  Similar the the Canadian system.</p>
<p>I do not think the debate that you are all having should be about "stupidity" or whether you have elected the correct president or not.  I think you should all be putting your efforts into fighting against the loss of freedoms and liberties that your government is slowly taking from you all.  You should be putting your energies into greater tolerance and greater acceptance of differences between races, idolisms and beliefs.  This is the fight you need to be focusing on both within your borders and the rest of the world. It is your duty as citizens of your country to be every vigilant of what your elected government is doing regardless of whether you are republican or democrat, black or white, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist, etc.   That being said, tolerance and acceptance does not mean conversion or assimilation.  It would be a very dull world if we were all white Anglo Saxon Christian capitalists living in a democratic country.</p>
<p>Since 1999 I have spent about 2 months of every year in the US.  Since 9/11 I have watched as your government has used fear and the so called threat of more terrorist attacks on your country to slowly bring in draconian policies such as the homeland security and patriot acts.  They have started wars in foreign countries based on false information, they have basically undermined the UN and managed to create rifts between countries who were once your allies.  I still wonder how you all as citizens have allowed this to happen.</p>
<p>To give you an idea of how far it has gone from an outsiders point of view, as of the 1st Oct 2004 I cannot enter your country without being finger printed - this applies to all non US citizens except Canadian â€“ are they US citizens? <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .  I do not have a criminal record, my finger prints are not linked to my passport in any way and this does not validate that I am who I say I am.  I am not a terrorist, I am not a criminal.  I have not even committed a crime.  My finger prints will also be kept on file and I do not have any rights in how my finger prints can be used or to which government agencies they can be used by.  Sorry for being sceptical but this measures is not going to catch a terrorist as a suicide bomber does not go through passport control more than once.  All this measure is doing is leaving a bad taste in the mouths of those who visit your  country.</p>
<p>One piece of advice that I do offer is read the web sites of the foreign press.  Read what the press are saying in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Canada, etc.  It will give you a better perspective on how the policies the US government are affecting the other countries in the world and why there is a growing anti-US cry from the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Scheuer</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12310</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Scheuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik: &quot;Anyone who opposes this is probably someone who would walk by without helping as someone else is being beaten on a street corner.&quot;



Pretty hypocritical if you ask me - the world is full of people being treated like that but it seems that Dubya doesn&#039;t give a flying f*ck about it as long as there&#039;s no oil involved. If you look at what US soldiers did at Abu Ghureib and at the fact that the US imprison people at Guantanamo without a fair trial, your argument becomes even more questionable. Yesterday a German newspaper wrote: &quot;after low carb and no fat diets, the US have finally invented faschism light&quot;, and while I find that comment too extreme, it looks as though I wouldn&#039;t want to be that somebody at the street corner who is waiting for your help these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik: "Anyone who opposes this is probably someone who would walk by without helping as someone else is being beaten on a street corner."</p>
<p>Pretty hypocritical if you ask me - the world is full of people being treated like that but it seems that Dubya doesn't give a flying f*ck about it as long as there's no oil involved. If you look at what US soldiers did at Abu Ghureib and at the fact that the US imprison people at Guantanamo without a fair trial, your argument becomes even more questionable. Yesterday a German newspaper wrote: "after low carb and no fat diets, the US have finally invented faschism light", and while I find that comment too extreme, it looks as though I wouldn't want to be that somebody at the street corner who is waiting for your help these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Samual Icky</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12309</link>
		<dc:creator>Samual Icky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 04:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only person thats stuid in the whole thing... is the person who is upset at the other person for not understanding why they dislike canadate x but unwill to understand why that person likes canadate y.



I don&#039;t agree with people who voted for the president but i can understand the reason they think he should be re-elected... many of those reason I disagreed with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only person thats stuid in the whole thing... is the person who is upset at the other person for not understanding why they dislike canadate x but unwill to understand why that person likes canadate y.</p>
<p>I don't agree with people who voted for the president but i can understand the reason they think he should be re-elected... many of those reason I disagreed with...</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12308</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head: the vocal people are heard. The silent masses in the middle are not. I&#039;m reading &quot;Americans are stupid&quot; and &quot;half of my country is stupid&quot; posts left and right, but rarely do I see any &quot;well, gee, that sucks, but I&#039;m going to keep on battling and do what I can with what I&#039;ve got&quot; posts.



The vocal extremes - left and right - are heard. Voting gives you a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; small voice. Write to your congressmen, extend your voice, and scream louder. But scream with a purpose, with an intent, and don&#039;t waste your lung power simply calling people names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, you've hit the nail on the head: the vocal people are heard. The silent masses in the middle are not. I'm reading "Americans are stupid" and "half of my country is stupid" posts left and right, but rarely do I see any "well, gee, that sucks, but I'm going to keep on battling and do what I can with what I've got" posts.</p>
<p>The vocal extremes - left and right - are heard. Voting gives you a <em>very</em> small voice. Write to your congressmen, extend your voice, and scream louder. But scream with a purpose, with an intent, and don't waste your lung power simply calling people names.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12307</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 03:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, ya don&#039;t get to ask the questions here. I didn&#039;t vote &lt;em&gt;for&lt;/em&gt; Bush, I voted &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; Kerry. My answers are irrelevant, because I&#039;d have to prepend them all with &quot;but Kerry would have done worse, regardless.&quot;



Furthermore, people are simply being ignorant if they think the world without Saddam is worse than the world with Saddam. I fully supported the invasion of Iraq and the establishment of some form of government there. Anyone who opposes this is probably someone who would walk by without helping as someone else is being beaten on a street corner.



Matt, great comment. I&#039;m posting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kottke.org/04/11/how-bush-won&quot;&gt;that link&lt;/a&gt; again because it&#039;s so good. Summary: &quot;half the country isn&#039;t stupid, we all are.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, ya don't get to ask the questions here. I didn't vote <em>for</em> Bush, I voted <em>against</em> Kerry. My answers are irrelevant, because I'd have to prepend them all with "but Kerry would have done worse, regardless."</p>
<p>Furthermore, people are simply being ignorant if they think the world without Saddam is worse than the world with Saddam. I fully supported the invasion of Iraq and the establishment of some form of government there. Anyone who opposes this is probably someone who would walk by without helping as someone else is being beaten on a street corner.</p>
<p>Matt, great comment. I'm posting <a  href="http://www.kottke.org/04/11/how-bush-won">that link</a> again because it's so good. Summary: "half the country isn't stupid, we all are."</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Christensen</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12306</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that saying things like that are counter-productive. But I think you should understand that these people making these claims do not represent most Democrats nor most of those who voted for Kerry. I could find you just as many people who have said &quot;anyone who votes for Kerry is an idiot&quot; or &quot;hates America&quot; or &quot;supports terrorism.&quot; &quot;Kerryites&quot; hold no monopoly on idiotic behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that saying things like that are counter-productive. But I think you should understand that these people making these claims do not represent most Democrats nor most of those who voted for Kerry. I could find you just as many people who have said "anyone who votes for Kerry is an idiot" or "hates America" or "supports terrorism." "Kerryites" hold no monopoly on idiotic behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Grayson</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2004/11/04/fucking_stupid#comment-12305</link>
		<dc:creator>Grayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 51%?  I never assumed that fucking stupid people all voted for a particular party, but thought that there were plenty of fucking stupid people to go around.  Can we amend it to at least 75% fucking stupid?  I&#039;d be willing to go around 85-90%, but I don&#039;t want to get greedy.  Can a fucking stupid person realize how many other fucking stupid people there are?  What if they are too fucking stupid to estimate correctly?



One last thought: is &quot;fucking&quot; being used as a gerund or as an intensifier?  If stupid people are fucking, then the percentage is likely to go up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 51%?  I never assumed that fucking stupid people all voted for a particular party, but thought that there were plenty of fucking stupid people to go around.  Can we amend it to at least 75% fucking stupid?  I'd be willing to go around 85-90%, but I don't want to get greedy.  Can a fucking stupid person realize how many other fucking stupid people there are?  What if they are too fucking stupid to estimate correctly?</p>
<p>One last thought: is "fucking" being used as a gerund or as an intensifier?  If stupid people are fucking, then the percentage is likely to go up.</p>
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