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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-69152</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 25 year veteran educator with 17 years in secondary administration.  You think Sylvan is a rip off, try special education!  Their motto should be &quot;Hotel California&quot; - you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!  Sylvan, Mathnasium, Kumon, they are all places to give the extra &quot;something&quot; that a noncaring teacher did not give.  All education has a price. I have a son with learning disabilities, yet I refuse special ed, because I believe he can do what he needs to be successful.  He doesn&#039;t know that he cannot because all he ever hears from me is the fact that he can do anything he sets his mind to!  He has taken Pre-AP courses and AP courses.  Not a real high GPA at all, but it is more the learning that I am after.  He has failed more than one class and is spending part of his senior year taking those he failed instead of having extra periods free,  but I make sure his worth is not caught up in performance, but in who he is and how he was created to be.  He was voted Junior class favorite last spring becauase he is always helping kids.  I am more concerned with his character than what he knows, and yet his character always paves the way for him to know what he needs, without the stress to perform.  I too work for a tutoring place....I make sure the kids know what they need to conceptually before we get to facts.  I make $15 per hour, and would love to make more, but am happy with the extra money to pay off debt.  I am more than happy with the center director - quality lady.  People have the right to make money, and to even get rich.  I do not think she is getting rich, but she much more enjoys doing this than being an engineer, which is what her degree is in.  People need to relax.  I sent 5 kids to jail this week for drug possession, and one to the hospital with an overdose.  We are recovering from a suicide.  People life (and school) is difficult.  WE can make it (life and/or school) better or we can make it worse for them.  What is in YOUR bag of tricks??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 25 year veteran educator with 17 years in secondary administration.  You think Sylvan is a rip off, try special education!  Their motto should be "Hotel California" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!  Sylvan, Mathnasium, Kumon, they are all places to give the extra "something" that a noncaring teacher did not give.  All education has a price. I have a son with learning disabilities, yet I refuse special ed, because I believe he can do what he needs to be successful.  He doesn't know that he cannot because all he ever hears from me is the fact that he can do anything he sets his mind to!  He has taken Pre-AP courses and AP courses.  Not a real high GPA at all, but it is more the learning that I am after.  He has failed more than one class and is spending part of his senior year taking those he failed instead of having extra periods free,  but I make sure his worth is not caught up in performance, but in who he is and how he was created to be.  He was voted Junior class favorite last spring becauase he is always helping kids.  I am more concerned with his character than what he knows, and yet his character always paves the way for him to know what he needs, without the stress to perform.  I too work for a tutoring place....I make sure the kids know what they need to conceptually before we get to facts.  I make $15 per hour, and would love to make more, but am happy with the extra money to pay off debt.  I am more than happy with the center director - quality lady.  People have the right to make money, and to even get rich.  I do not think she is getting rich, but she much more enjoys doing this than being an engineer, which is what her degree is in.  People need to relax.  I sent 5 kids to jail this week for drug possession, and one to the hospital with an overdose.  We are recovering from a suicide.  People life (and school) is difficult.  WE can make it (life and/or school) better or we can make it worse for them.  What is in YOUR bag of tricks??</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvan parent and former employee</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-69146</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvan parent and former employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked at sylvan with a starting salary of $14/hr. the franchisee gave me a yearly bonus and a $.50 increase per subject I could teach after a 60 day probation period. This was a part time job that I would go to after my full time job during the day.  What you have to remember is sylvan is a franchisee which means most of them are privately owned. Yes sylvan costs about $45/hr but what people tend to forget is they don&#039;t have to just pay for te teacher which is say $15/hr to cut $45 evenly, but they also have to pay the directors who are working at the same time as well as rent, utilities, marketing, advertising, etc. I costs a heck of a lot of money to run it and to be honest, the franchisees are on their own with little to no help with anything from sylvan corporate.  As for the education, people are stating you&#039;ve an hire a private tutor to get more attention but that doesn&#039;t work as quickly. As a teacher at sylvan, as well as a full time teacher, I less how the confidence builds up in them as they see the other kids at the table that are their age or older need help too.  Each program for the students is different based on what they need help with that is found with a test and a private tutor cannot do that.  I&#039;ve worke at sylvan with 1-1 and 3-1 and the best results are when it&#039;s 1-1. I know a lot of people feel they got ripped off from sylvan, an some of you may have but that doesn&#039;t mean all Sylvans are like that; the one I worked at wasn&#039;t. I have even brought my two children to sylvan starting in the beginning reading program and they are now in 5th grade, skipped 1st, and in the most advanced classes. Sylvan is a good investment and since I&#039;m a teacher you all apparently know I make no money and I make it work for my kids.  You can&#039;t put a price on education or for your kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked at sylvan with a starting salary of $14/hr. the franchisee gave me a yearly bonus and a $.50 increase per subject I could teach after a 60 day probation period. This was a part time job that I would go to after my full time job during the day.  What you have to remember is sylvan is a franchisee which means most of them are privately owned. Yes sylvan costs about $45/hr but what people tend to forget is they don't have to just pay for te teacher which is say $15/hr to cut $45 evenly, but they also have to pay the directors who are working at the same time as well as rent, utilities, marketing, advertising, etc. I costs a heck of a lot of money to run it and to be honest, the franchisees are on their own with little to no help with anything from sylvan corporate.  As for the education, people are stating you've an hire a private tutor to get more attention but that doesn't work as quickly. As a teacher at sylvan, as well as a full time teacher, I less how the confidence builds up in them as they see the other kids at the table that are their age or older need help too.  Each program for the students is different based on what they need help with that is found with a test and a private tutor cannot do that.  I've worke at sylvan with 1-1 and 3-1 and the best results are when it's 1-1. I know a lot of people feel they got ripped off from sylvan, an some of you may have but that doesn't mean all Sylvans are like that; the one I worked at wasn't. I have even brought my two children to sylvan starting in the beginning reading program and they are now in 5th grade, skipped 1st, and in the most advanced classes. Sylvan is a good investment and since I'm a teacher you all apparently know I make no money and I make it work for my kids.  You can't put a price on education or for your kids.</p>
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		<title>By: chari</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-69083</link>
		<dc:creator>chari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68589</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents,
    Take your struggling readers to a clinic that follows the reccommendations of The National Reading Panel. Lindamoode-Bell
or a Phonographix trained tutor. Sylvan is a success in marketing not tutoring. The best idea for teaching your struggling reader is to buy a copy of &quot;Why Johnny Can&#039;t Read&quot; by Rudolph Flesch. The last half of the book explains how to teach your child to read. With a little patience 
your child will learn how to read. Enjoy the experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents,<br />
    Take your struggling readers to a clinic that follows the reccommendations of The National Reading Panel. Lindamoode-Bell<br />
or a Phonographix trained tutor. Sylvan is a success in marketing not tutoring. The best idea for teaching your struggling reader is to buy a copy of "Why Johnny Can't Read" by Rudolph Flesch. The last half of the book explains how to teach your child to read. With a little patience<br />
your child will learn how to read. Enjoy the experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68503</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;55037&quot;]This is a very good way to look at this situation. Also the lady birdie nest on here needs to realize lawyers and so on make more money because they have longer hours, harder jobs, more research, and just in general harder jobs. They have to stay up todate on the law and so on.  You know a lawyers job is harder. Look at it this way, teachers make more than police officer&#039;s. Are there jobs meaning less.  teachers have great hours, holiday pay, 2 weeks off at christmas, a week or so off at spring break, paid summer vacation, insurance, 4o1k, oh yea, don&#039;t forget the sick and personal days off with pay. Sounds pretty good to me!!!!  I will take the $30,000 to $40,000 (and some make more) pay that SC pays a teacher along with all that time off!!!!!! I don&#039; think lawyers get that![/quote]

Wow! I have been teaching for 16 years and have never thought that 7:30 am to 4:30 pm was any less hours than any other full-time worker. (Oops, I forgot about all the correcting and planning I do at home!)

 We do not have paid holidays or paid summer vacation.  School districts take our pay for the ten months we are in school and split it equally among all twelve months, so that we have a paycheck over the summer. Oh, and most of my family&#039;s health insurance is deducted from my salary.

People have this old- fashioned view of the teaching profession.  Wake up and do some research, oh lawyer, we are now in the twenty-first century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a  href="http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-55037">mont1925` said</a> on August 12, 2009:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-55037"><p>
This is a very good way to look at this situation. Also the lady birdie nest on here needs to realize lawyers and so on make more money because they have longer hours, harder jobs, more research, and just in general harder jobs. They have to stay up todate on the law and so on.  You know a lawyers job is harder. Look at it this way, teachers make more than police officer's. Are there jobs meaning less.  teachers have great hours, holiday pay, 2 weeks off at christmas, a week or so off at spring break, paid summer vacation, insurance, 4o1k, oh yea, don't forget the sick and personal days off with pay. Sounds pretty good to me!!!!  I will take the $30,000 to $40,000 (and some make more) pay that SC pays a teacher along with all that time off!!!!!! I don' think lawyers get that!</p>
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<p>Wow! I have been teaching for 16 years and have never thought that 7:30 am to 4:30 pm was any less hours than any other full-time worker. (Oops, I forgot about all the correcting and planning I do at home!)</p>
<p> We do not have paid holidays or paid summer vacation.  School districts take our pay for the ten months we are in school and split it equally among all twelve months, so that we have a paycheck over the summer. Oh, and most of my family's health insurance is deducted from my salary.</p>
<p>People have this old- fashioned view of the teaching profession.  Wake up and do some research, oh lawyer, we are now in the twenty-first century.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68395</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Sylvan, really?  Your post is so outrageous it&#039;s funny. 36 hours for $5,000???? There is no way on earth that happened. Did you ever think you are successful as a ninth grader because of some of what you learned at Sylvan way back when? No, of course not, because that&#039;s all about you. There is nothing wrong with paying Sylvan to help motivate a child. Most parents have no clue today how to raise their children. I don&#039;t post here much but can&#039;t stand it when people lie about a service. I worked for Sylvan for 7 years, maybe $22/hr as a teacher, and what we did worked for kids. Not all, because nothing works for everyone, but there are so many lies on this page, it&#039;s sad. Someone ought to shut you down, Erik.  Why encourage lies about a company you clearly know nothing about?  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Sylvan, really?  Your post is so outrageous it's funny. 36 hours for $5,000???? There is no way on earth that happened. Did you ever think you are successful as a ninth grader because of some of what you learned at Sylvan way back when? No, of course not, because that's all about you. There is nothing wrong with paying Sylvan to help motivate a child. Most parents have no clue today how to raise their children. I don't post here much but can't stand it when people lie about a service. I worked for Sylvan for 7 years, maybe $22/hr as a teacher, and what we did worked for kids. Not all, because nothing works for everyone, but there are so many lies on this page, it's sad. Someone ought to shut you down, Erik.  Why encourage lies about a company you clearly know nothing about?  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: WhySylvan</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68391</link>
		<dc:creator>WhySylvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 01:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went into Sylvan in fourth grade because, quite bluntly, my parents believed I sucked at math. I also got a creative writing course for reasons I&#039;m not so sure of. We went in and they &quot;tested&quot; me on my math skills. The test was like reading a foreign language, not because I had no idea how to do the math, but the wording of the problems was on a much higher grade level, i.e. &quot;Simplify&quot; or &quot;Synthesize&quot; an answer. They intentionally give your child a puzzle of a test, half of which is spent finding out what are are supposed to do and then doing it.

Low and behold, I was found supposedly &quot;below grade level&quot; in many math concepts, and the recommendation was 36 hours of tutoring at a price near $5k. My mom was instantly captured by Sylvan&#039;s brainwashing.

I went in to tutoring for the first day, and was unimpressed. First, there is three kids per teacher, not the &quot;One on one&quot; tutoring they claim to have. Second, the majority of the time, I was given a math workbook and told to do problems. While they did explain how to do the problems, very little time was spent actually being taught. The majority of the time was spent trying to get the ADD and autistic kids to do their work, and dealing with the errant misbehavior of the tykes running wild around the center. 

So let&#039;s talk about the work. It was virtually the same math problems every time, so all you had to do was memorize the answers to appear like you were &quot;learning&quot; the concept. One time I literally drew in my notebook for the entire math hour with no teacher involvement. Another time I said I was bored, so the teacher gave me blocks to play with...Yes, my parents were paying $45 an hour to let me play with blocks and draw.

To me, Sylvan seems like a glorified babysitting service for wealthy private school students who couldn&#039;t give a toss about their schoolwork. Even Parenting magazine says that Sylvan is &quot;Good for kids who aren&#039;t super motivated&quot; It disgusts me that people are paying a service to make their children do work. What happened to old fashioned parenting? The liberals call it &quot;Child abuse&quot; now.

Back to the math course. After being taught how to take [and pass] the Sylvan test, it appeared that I was &quot;on grade level&quot; according to the center.That was until the next day, when my math homework was due, and I got a 68%.

I&#039;m a freshman in high school now and am doing just fine. Oh, and the elementary 5678+6376 math we were doing is now on calculators. Blimey! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went into Sylvan in fourth grade because, quite bluntly, my parents believed I sucked at math. I also got a creative writing course for reasons I'm not so sure of. We went in and they "tested" me on my math skills. The test was like reading a foreign language, not because I had no idea how to do the math, but the wording of the problems was on a much higher grade level, i.e. "Simplify" or "Synthesize" an answer. They intentionally give your child a puzzle of a test, half of which is spent finding out what are are supposed to do and then doing it.</p>
<p>Low and behold, I was found supposedly "below grade level" in many math concepts, and the recommendation was 36 hours of tutoring at a price near $5k. My mom was instantly captured by Sylvan's brainwashing.</p>
<p>I went in to tutoring for the first day, and was unimpressed. First, there is three kids per teacher, not the "One on one" tutoring they claim to have. Second, the majority of the time, I was given a math workbook and told to do problems. While they did explain how to do the problems, very little time was spent actually being taught. The majority of the time was spent trying to get the ADD and autistic kids to do their work, and dealing with the errant misbehavior of the tykes running wild around the center. </p>
<p>So let's talk about the work. It was virtually the same math problems every time, so all you had to do was memorize the answers to appear like you were "learning" the concept. One time I literally drew in my notebook for the entire math hour with no teacher involvement. Another time I said I was bored, so the teacher gave me blocks to play with...Yes, my parents were paying $45 an hour to let me play with blocks and draw.</p>
<p>To me, Sylvan seems like a glorified babysitting service for wealthy private school students who couldn't give a toss about their schoolwork. Even Parenting magazine says that Sylvan is "Good for kids who aren't super motivated" It disgusts me that people are paying a service to make their children do work. What happened to old fashioned parenting? The liberals call it "Child abuse" now.</p>
<p>Back to the math course. After being taught how to take [and pass] the Sylvan test, it appeared that I was "on grade level" according to the center.That was until the next day, when my math homework was due, and I got a 68%.</p>
<p>I'm a freshman in high school now and am doing just fine. Oh, and the elementary 5678+6376 math we were doing is now on calculators. Blimey! <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68300</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After working for Sylvan as an advisor, and speaking to so many parents about their suggling children, the hardest part is telling them the price. After doing the math, each parent/student/customer pays at least $2,500 each. AT LEAST. And it only goes up from there. Some parents start off with a package that costs $3,800. Its quite expensive. This is the call procedure, 1. Greet the customer with a personalized greeting and thank them for calling. 2. Ask them if they have visited the website or if they have ever contacted Sylvan before. 3. Ask them what prompted their call. 4. Find the right package or program that fits their situation. 5. Assumptively (meaning somewhat demanding) ask for their commitment. Using verbage for example Okay I will set that up for you or Okay Let&#039;s get you in right away, and the customer doesn&#039;t even realize it&#039;s a question for their commitment to the services being offered. 6. Schedule the Starter Session if they signed up for a 6 week package for $1,500 , 10 week package for $2,000 or 15+ week package for 2,500 to $3,800, or schedule an assessment for $175-$250, or a free consultation to go in and tour the center and set up a package or assessment for those same prices, 7. Take the non-refundable deposit $50-100. Unless its an SAT Seminar Class which can range anywhere from $899+ and it has to be paid up front. 8. Give the customer/ Responsible Party directions and confirm the appointment/session 9. Thank the customer/ Responsible Party

If the call center Rep doesn&#039;t do this Call Flow and have &quot;control&quot; of the call, they can lose their job. Its quite a lt of pressure. And they have to unload a terrible price onto the parent like that. Some parents are quite emotional about their child struggling, some even crying, and there&#039;s nothing the Sylvan Representative can do because they are being listened to on virtually ever call. All they can say is &quot;I understand, Sylvan can help.&quot; You just have to go into debt to pay for Sylvan&#039;s help. It&#039;s terrible. The government should step in a lot more with funding for these children to get one on one attention from a certified teacher like they do at Sylvan. It&#039;s a good service, just way to expensive for the average american to be able to afford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After working for Sylvan as an advisor, and speaking to so many parents about their suggling children, the hardest part is telling them the price. After doing the math, each parent/student/customer pays at least $2,500 each. AT LEAST. And it only goes up from there. Some parents start off with a package that costs $3,800. Its quite expensive. This is the call procedure, 1. Greet the customer with a personalized greeting and thank them for calling. 2. Ask them if they have visited the website or if they have ever contacted Sylvan before. 3. Ask them what prompted their call. 4. Find the right package or program that fits their situation. 5. Assumptively (meaning somewhat demanding) ask for their commitment. Using verbage for example Okay I will set that up for you or Okay Let's get you in right away, and the customer doesn't even realize it's a question for their commitment to the services being offered. 6. Schedule the Starter Session if they signed up for a 6 week package for $1,500 , 10 week package for $2,000 or 15+ week package for 2,500 to $3,800, or schedule an assessment for $175-$250, or a free consultation to go in and tour the center and set up a package or assessment for those same prices, 7. Take the non-refundable deposit $50-100. Unless its an SAT Seminar Class which can range anywhere from $899+ and it has to be paid up front. 8. Give the customer/ Responsible Party directions and confirm the appointment/session 9. Thank the customer/ Responsible Party</p>
<p>If the call center Rep doesn't do this Call Flow and have "control" of the call, they can lose their job. Its quite a lt of pressure. And they have to unload a terrible price onto the parent like that. Some parents are quite emotional about their child struggling, some even crying, and there's nothing the Sylvan Representative can do because they are being listened to on virtually ever call. All they can say is "I understand, Sylvan can help." You just have to go into debt to pay for Sylvan's help. It's terrible. The government should step in a lot more with funding for these children to get one on one attention from a certified teacher like they do at Sylvan. It's a good service, just way to expensive for the average american to be able to afford.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68294</link>
		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Kari, i will have to disagree with you.  I&#039;m getting ready to leave Sylvan.  I think $10/hour is insulting to a certified teacher. I can make more money tutoring via WyzAnt where I set my rate and receive 60% of that rate. I call the center I work for a &quot;crooked center&quot; because the owner is just that...a crook.  People come and go at this center like there&#039;s a revolving door.  The shame of it is that if the curriculum in schools were serving the needs of the students, there would be no need for Sylvan.  I&#039;m a dedicated teacher who genuinely wants to help students learn.  I have valuable skills that Sylvan basically takes advantage of.  Can&#039;t wait to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Kari, i will have to disagree with you.  I'm getting ready to leave Sylvan.  I think $10/hour is insulting to a certified teacher. I can make more money tutoring via WyzAnt where I set my rate and receive 60% of that rate. I call the center I work for a "crooked center" because the owner is just that...a crook.  People come and go at this center like there's a revolving door.  The shame of it is that if the curriculum in schools were serving the needs of the students, there would be no need for Sylvan.  I'm a dedicated teacher who genuinely wants to help students learn.  I have valuable skills that Sylvan basically takes advantage of.  Can't wait to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Do you really care what my name is</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68257</link>
		<dc:creator>Do you really care what my name is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;68199&quot;]As a teacher I do not believe you have a clue what it is really like.  I separated from the military after 10 years to pursue what I feel to be a &quot;calling&quot; and have been doing so for the past 13 years.  So I gave up a guaranteed retirement from the military, great pay, and I could have collected that retirement 4 years ago at the age of 40 and now have to put in 30 years of teaching to get paid less than what I could have gotten so your statement doesn&#039;t add up.  Also, do you have a child?  Why don&#039;t you calculate how much it costs to send the child to day care because some of our teachers unfortunately  are having to babysit and or raise a child because the parents at home don&#039;t seem to be doing the job very well (more than the classroom coursework).  If we only had to teach maybe your point is relevant, but with today&#039;s society it goes well beyond that in our classrooms.  Ah Duh...[/quote]

Boo freaking hoo. You CHOSE to leave the military. You CHOSE to be a teacher. There are other jobs out there that you could have taken. Don&#039;t gripe about the money you don&#039;t make when you chose to do what you do. You are paid very well for only working eight months out of the year. $5k a month is a very fine living no matter what part of the country you are from. I have two children and they are both in school, and I know exactly how much it costs to send them to daycare. Schools are not day cares. I agree that some parent are lacking, but you are still paid very well for your profession, have good benefits, and a very good retirement. If you don&#039;t feel like $5k a month is good enough, then get a summer job. Very and I mean very few teachers are paid less than $40k a year. There are a lot of poor teachers out there that are protected by teacher&#039;s unions that should not be teaching anybody. There are teachers out there that are tenured that would not make good crossing guards, much less teachers, but the ISD&#039;s can not get rid of them. I believe teachers would have a gripe about pay if test scores weren&#039;t so low and if the US was not ranked so low internationally in math and reading. Teacher pay is not based on merit either; that is a problem. Don&#039;t cry me a river because you aren&#039;t making what you think you should be making. You are making more that I am while working twenty five percent less of the year, and making almost the same as my RN wife who also works the full year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a  href="http://nslog.com/2005/06/14/sylvan_learning_center_rips_off_teachers#comment-68199">MC said</a> on September 25, 2011:</p>
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As a teacher I do not believe you have a clue what it is really like.  I separated from the military after 10 years to pursue what I feel to be a "calling" and have been doing so for the past 13 years.  So I gave up a guaranteed retirement from the military, great pay, and I could have collected that retirement 4 years ago at the age of 40 and now have to put in 30 years of teaching to get paid less than what I could have gotten so your statement doesn't add up.  Also, do you have a child?  Why don't you calculate how much it costs to send the child to day care because some of our teachers unfortunately  are having to babysit and or raise a child because the parents at home don't seem to be doing the job very well (more than the classroom coursework).  If we only had to teach maybe your point is relevant, but with today's society it goes well beyond that in our classrooms.  Ah Duh...</p>
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<p>Boo freaking hoo. You CHOSE to leave the military. You CHOSE to be a teacher. There are other jobs out there that you could have taken. Don't gripe about the money you don't make when you chose to do what you do. You are paid very well for only working eight months out of the year. $5k a month is a very fine living no matter what part of the country you are from. I have two children and they are both in school, and I know exactly how much it costs to send them to daycare. Schools are not day cares. I agree that some parent are lacking, but you are still paid very well for your profession, have good benefits, and a very good retirement. If you don't feel like $5k a month is good enough, then get a summer job. Very and I mean very few teachers are paid less than $40k a year. There are a lot of poor teachers out there that are protected by teacher's unions that should not be teaching anybody. There are teachers out there that are tenured that would not make good crossing guards, much less teachers, but the ISD's can not get rid of them. I believe teachers would have a gripe about pay if test scores weren't so low and if the US was not ranked so low internationally in math and reading. Teacher pay is not based on merit either; that is a problem. Don't cry me a river because you aren't making what you think you should be making. You are making more that I am while working twenty five percent less of the year, and making almost the same as my RN wife who also works the full year.</p>
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