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Saft Bug? Safari Won’t Keep Plug-Ins Enabled

Every time I launch Safari - whether it's after a crash or after a restart or after me quitting Safari manually - the "Enable plug-ins" option in the "Security" preferences is disabled.

I have Saft installed, but none of its settings seem to be affecting this issue. I can check the box and Safari works properly, but the next time I launch Safari it's unchecked once again.

I can save other preferences and their on/off state is preserved. The permissions are correct.

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So what's going on? Safari 2.0.3 (417.8) and Mac OS X 10.4.4. As I said, Saft and not much else non-standard installed. More notes will appear in the comments as I trouble-shoot this issue. I wanted to get the symptoms here first.

18 Responses to "Saft Bug? Safari Won’t Keep Plug-Ins Enabled"

  1. List of /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins:

    DRM Plugin.bundle
    Flash Player.plugin
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.webplugin
    Java Applet Plugin Enabler
    Java Applet.plugin
    QuickTime Plugin.plugin
    QuickTime Plugin.webplugin
    RealPlayer Plugin
    RealPlayer Plugin.xpt

    Effect of removing all these plugins and launching Safari: checkbox still disabled.

    Effect of removing Saft? Checkbox is checked as it should be. Saft version: 8.2.3 - the latest version.

  2. Visit the Saft author's site and you see this:

    Saft 8.2.3 was release in a hurry to support just released MacOS 10.4.4, and some bugs were introduced due to both changes in the new Safari and the code changes in Saft.

    I re-downloaded Saft 8.2.3. No change - plug-ins are still disabled every time after launch. I re-set the pref (by clicking it) every time.

  3. I've been seeing that behavior for a while now. I don't recall what version of Saft I'm running (at work on a Windows machine at the moment) but I know I have to recheck that box every time I launch Safari. I know I'm not running the latest version of Saft, but I can't remember how many versions back I've been seeing it. I also have not upgraded to 10.4.4 or the newest Safari yet.

  4. It's likely you just have "Block Plugins" enabled under Safari menu -> Block Images and Plugins -> Block Plguins.

  5. Yes, Hao's last response has the answer. I dislike the number of things Saft puts in the "Safari" menu and I really dislike that they're given keyboard shortcuts. A submenu in the Safari menu - a menu I never use - is not a place I'm likely to look when troubleshooting. Make it a pref to turn off all "Safari" menu changes, Hao - I don't change any of them.

  6. Wow, I'm glad I was able to google the answer here! Before reading this, I'd no idea that Saft added anything to the Safari menu, which I almost never peek into.

  7. Thanks for blogging about this as I just discovered recently that plug-ins were turned off every time I started Safari. The Safari → Block Images and Plugins → Plugins setting was getting me as well. You are quite right that there should not be keyboard shortcuts on those settings.

  8. Hao to the rescue. Thanks, I couldn't figure out why this was happening either.

  9. This was bugging me for weeks!!! Thank you!!!

  10. I just encountered this problem myself. Likely cause? apple + option + L = Downloads. With Saft installed, apple + shift + L = Block Plugins.

  11. Wow! I'm also very glad you blogged about this! And I'm glad that Hao found your blog and responded, too! I love it when things are easy! 😀

  12. ohh! Thanks!

  13. Dang it, I feel so, so silly. 😳
    I was accidently hitting the shortcut for disable plugins without even knowing it. 😐

  14. Ha! This has been plaguing me for at least a year now. I'd resigned myself to just having to reset the checkbox every time I relaunched Safari.

    Like others above, I didn't even know that Saft added anything to the Safari menu. And, like everyone else, I probably accidentally hit cmd-shift-L trying to open the Downloads window at some point. I do love Saft, but it would be nice if this sort of thing was controlled in the standard Saft prefs menu. Then, of course, it wouldn't have a shortcut, but maybe that's not such a bad thing. 🙂

  15. Thx a lot!

    This has been bugging me for quite some time (at least a year now) and i have been blaming pithhelmet all along (Just to myself though). Oopsie.


  16. Damn. Thats bugged me for like 2 years now.

    Life's better now.

    Brilliant. Thanks!!


  17. Super again a thank you for publishing this solution.

  18. Thanks so much!

    This was bothering me a while now and I first thought that ClickToFlash was the problem (because the main symptom was YouTube telling me to get a newer version of Flash).
    I find it a bad idea to associate shortcuts (and especially common ones) with these for me unimportant menu items.

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