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		<title>By: JJG</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-69412</link>
		<dc:creator>JJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a site that published a chart by state:
State	Taxable
	Shipping
Arizona	    NO
Arkansas	    YES
California	    NO
Colorado	    NO
Connecticut	    YES
Florida	    NO
Georgia	    YES
Hawaii	    YES
Idaho	    NO
Illinois	    NO
Indiana	    YES
Iowa	    NO
Kansas	    YES
Kentucky	    YES
Maine	    NO
Maryland	    NO
Massachusetts    NO
Michigan	    YES
Minnesota	    YES
Missouri 	    NO
Nebraska	    YES
New Jersey 	    NO
New York	    YES
North Carolina  YES
Ohio	    YES
Pennsylvania	    YES
South Carolina  YES
Tennessee	    YES
Texas	    YES
Utah	    YES
Vermont	    NO
Virginia	    NO
Washington	    YES
West Virginia	    NO
Wisconsin	    YES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a site that published a chart by state:<br />
State	Taxable<br />
	Shipping<br />
Arizona	    NO<br />
Arkansas	    YES<br />
California	    NO<br />
Colorado	    NO<br />
Connecticut	    YES<br />
Florida	    NO<br />
Georgia	    YES<br />
Hawaii	    YES<br />
Idaho	    NO<br />
Illinois	    NO<br />
Indiana	    YES<br />
Iowa	    NO<br />
Kansas	    YES<br />
Kentucky	    YES<br />
Maine	    NO<br />
Maryland	    NO<br />
Massachusetts    NO<br />
Michigan	    YES<br />
Minnesota	    YES<br />
Missouri 	    NO<br />
Nebraska	    YES<br />
New Jersey 	    NO<br />
New York	    YES<br />
North Carolina  YES<br />
Ohio	    YES<br />
Pennsylvania	    YES<br />
South Carolina  YES<br />
Tennessee	    YES<br />
Texas	    YES<br />
Utah	    YES<br />
Vermont	    NO<br />
Virginia	    NO<br />
Washington	    YES<br />
West Virginia	    NO<br />
Wisconsin	    YES</p>
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		<title>By: mildred penaflor</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-68686</link>
		<dc:creator>mildred penaflor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im mildred  from philippines.i would like to ask if i still need to pay tax during the claiming time of purchase.i orderd bag from spore thru internet and i already paid the shipping and its already cleared by custom, but suddenly  post office ask me to pay postal service fee.i paid   and i thought i can claim my package immidiatly after paying the postal service fee,, but after that they ask me  to go inside thier office  they said they want to open my package and check whats inside.i cant do anything coz they already opened it.when they saw whats inside of my package they started to compute the  prices and started to issue a coupon receipt which written the amount of  tax that i need to pay its more than 3k almost haf of my orderd price,,,i didnt pay coz i want to find out about this matter,,,pls answer me immidiatly..thanks and regards..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im mildred  from philippines.i would like to ask if i still need to pay tax during the claiming time of purchase.i orderd bag from spore thru internet and i already paid the shipping and its already cleared by custom, but suddenly  post office ask me to pay postal service fee.i paid   and i thought i can claim my package immidiatly after paying the postal service fee,, but after that they ask me  to go inside thier office  they said they want to open my package and check whats inside.i cant do anything coz they already opened it.when they saw whats inside of my package they started to compute the  prices and started to issue a coupon receipt which written the amount of  tax that i need to pay its more than 3k almost haf of my orderd price,,,i didnt pay coz i want to find out about this matter,,,pls answer me immidiatly..thanks and regards..</p>
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		<title>By: Name Required</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-68470</link>
		<dc:creator>Name Required</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pennsylvania is now trying to get consumers to compute their own sales tax for out of state purchases either online or catalog since businesses without a physical presence in PA cant be forced to collect it.  When you file 2011 taxes there will be a box asking how much your taxable items where sales tax wasnt collected and then you have to compute how much you owe and pay it.  They just announced this. So you are expected to have kept your receipts?  How many people do that?  Then you have to list each place you bought from and total all the numbers then total them all.  You could put $0 which most people will due.  Odds are the state will never know about it but technically they could fine you and/or send you to jail for lying on a return.  I guess now everyone will have to waste countless hours not only recording all purchases, making their way thru the complex state tax rules then computing all this. Do they expect regular people to all hire tax accountants?

 There are so many weird exceptions to the sales tax.  Umbrellas are taxes, raincoats arent.  Regular shirts arent, while Bowling shirts are.  Golf and bowling shoes are, basketball and tennis shoes arent. Pumpkin for eating is not taxed but if you use it for decoration its supposed to be.  What if you put it out for decoration on the porch for a couple of weeks then use if for pie filling and eat it? Howz that work? LOL.  Politicians stuck all these strange exceptions into the code over the years.

Then there is the issue of buying anything in Ebay from an ordinary person.  They rarely collect sales tax so you are now expected for figure this all out depending on what the item is and whats its to be used for.   They apparently want you to list these peoples names, addresses and phone numbers too!  Hello Big Brother.

Of course at the Federal level people are supposed to actually compute capital gains/losses for item sold on Ebay (probably for the the states too).  Selling some old junk left by your dead relatives?  Supposedly you are criminal if you dont.  How many people hold yard sales or sell via newspaper ads or just to a neighbor?  Which is just a no tech version of Ebay,  then you might  be a tax criminal.

Dont know if they classify people in Philly who drive to sales tax free Delaware to load up on expensive stuff then drive back to PA.  I know people who do this. Are they tax evaders/criminals?

I wouldnt be surprised if they started measuring the amount of gasoline in your tank if you live on the border of a state with lower gasoline taxes (hence lower prices) to determine if you are going there to fill up your tank and evade PA&#039;s higher gas taxes.  Gasoline prices in Ohio for iinstance are always lower than PA because they have lower gas taxes.

Its not that people dont want to pay any taxes at all, its just the tax laws have become so complicated over time that practically everyone is breaking the law in some way.  Here are the taxes I know I pay or have paid.

Federal Income Taxes -  47% of taxpayers, most at the low end, pay nothing net or get back more than they paid due to various tax credits, so they dont pay this one.  
State Income Tax
Social Security Tax
Medicare Tax
State Sales Tax
Local Income Tax
Local Property Tax
County Property Tax
School Property Tax
License Tax
Vehicle Taxes 
Gasoline Taxes
Various Utility Taxes
Sewage Surcharge Tax  (extended this twice - will likely never go away)
Real Estate Transfer Tax
Capital Gains Taxes
Dividend Taxes
Local Per Capita Tax
School Per Capita Tax
State Unemployment Fund Tax

Some of them are small but they add up like crazy and there are many others that are hidden in the cost of the product like taxes business pay.  Businesses simply imbed taxes into the prices of products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pennsylvania is now trying to get consumers to compute their own sales tax for out of state purchases either online or catalog since businesses without a physical presence in PA cant be forced to collect it.  When you file 2011 taxes there will be a box asking how much your taxable items where sales tax wasnt collected and then you have to compute how much you owe and pay it.  They just announced this. So you are expected to have kept your receipts?  How many people do that?  Then you have to list each place you bought from and total all the numbers then total them all.  You could put $0 which most people will due.  Odds are the state will never know about it but technically they could fine you and/or send you to jail for lying on a return.  I guess now everyone will have to waste countless hours not only recording all purchases, making their way thru the complex state tax rules then computing all this. Do they expect regular people to all hire tax accountants?</p>
<p> There are so many weird exceptions to the sales tax.  Umbrellas are taxes, raincoats arent.  Regular shirts arent, while Bowling shirts are.  Golf and bowling shoes are, basketball and tennis shoes arent. Pumpkin for eating is not taxed but if you use it for decoration its supposed to be.  What if you put it out for decoration on the porch for a couple of weeks then use if for pie filling and eat it? Howz that work? LOL.  Politicians stuck all these strange exceptions into the code over the years.</p>
<p>Then there is the issue of buying anything in Ebay from an ordinary person.  They rarely collect sales tax so you are now expected for figure this all out depending on what the item is and whats its to be used for.   They apparently want you to list these peoples names, addresses and phone numbers too!  Hello Big Brother.</p>
<p>Of course at the Federal level people are supposed to actually compute capital gains/losses for item sold on Ebay (probably for the the states too).  Selling some old junk left by your dead relatives?  Supposedly you are criminal if you dont.  How many people hold yard sales or sell via newspaper ads or just to a neighbor?  Which is just a no tech version of Ebay,  then you might  be a tax criminal.</p>
<p>Dont know if they classify people in Philly who drive to sales tax free Delaware to load up on expensive stuff then drive back to PA.  I know people who do this. Are they tax evaders/criminals?</p>
<p>I wouldnt be surprised if they started measuring the amount of gasoline in your tank if you live on the border of a state with lower gasoline taxes (hence lower prices) to determine if you are going there to fill up your tank and evade PA's higher gas taxes.  Gasoline prices in Ohio for iinstance are always lower than PA because they have lower gas taxes.</p>
<p>Its not that people dont want to pay any taxes at all, its just the tax laws have become so complicated over time that practically everyone is breaking the law in some way.  Here are the taxes I know I pay or have paid.</p>
<p>Federal Income Taxes -  47% of taxpayers, most at the low end, pay nothing net or get back more than they paid due to various tax credits, so they dont pay this one.<br />
State Income Tax<br />
Social Security Tax<br />
Medicare Tax<br />
State Sales Tax<br />
Local Income Tax<br />
Local Property Tax<br />
County Property Tax<br />
School Property Tax<br />
License Tax<br />
Vehicle Taxes<br />
Gasoline Taxes<br />
Various Utility Taxes<br />
Sewage Surcharge Tax  (extended this twice - will likely never go away)<br />
Real Estate Transfer Tax<br />
Capital Gains Taxes<br />
Dividend Taxes<br />
Local Per Capita Tax<br />
School Per Capita Tax<br />
State Unemployment Fund Tax</p>
<p>Some of them are small but they add up like crazy and there are many others that are hidden in the cost of the product like taxes business pay.  Businesses simply imbed taxes into the prices of products.</p>
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		<title>By: Blip</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-68037</link>
		<dc:creator>Blip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 04:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the problem. Democrats would rather pay taxes than vote Republicam. One thing is, most Democrats are exempt from paying taxes, thanks to Bush&#039;s 2001 OBRA, so that&#039;s easy for them to say. Second thing; most Democrats are sitting home, being subsidized by the taxes that everyone else has to work to pay. Reality is, the do nothing Dems get their benefits only after the Dem politicians pay their union buddies, corporate sponsers and line their own pockets first. Elitism at it&#039;s best, that&#039;s what Dem Politicians think &#039;Trickle Down Economy&#039; means - You get what trickles down after it&#039;s been skimmed, sifted and laundered through them first. Imagine four trillion of the reserve, tax income, and lending in two years (that&#039;s a lot of zeros and it&#039;s like one hindred thousand dollars every second or two). But you aren&#039;t getting it. Otherwise every man, woman and child in the US would recieve over one hundred thousand each. It&#039;s going to Dems bogus green CCX investments (even to this day), payroll for only union member govt jobs, purchasing GM, etc. etc. And they want you to think that the next round of taxes that you all support is going to go for something good for you. I&#039;d rather buy the Brooklyn Bridge! I say, if you don&#039;t pay taxes and you&#039;re not on SSI due to age or a true disabiliy, you shouldn&#039;t be allowed to vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's the problem. Democrats would rather pay taxes than vote Republicam. One thing is, most Democrats are exempt from paying taxes, thanks to Bush's 2001 OBRA, so that's easy for them to say. Second thing; most Democrats are sitting home, being subsidized by the taxes that everyone else has to work to pay. Reality is, the do nothing Dems get their benefits only after the Dem politicians pay their union buddies, corporate sponsers and line their own pockets first. Elitism at it's best, that's what Dem Politicians think 'Trickle Down Economy' means - You get what trickles down after it's been skimmed, sifted and laundered through them first. Imagine four trillion of the reserve, tax income, and lending in two years (that's a lot of zeros and it's like one hindred thousand dollars every second or two). But you aren't getting it. Otherwise every man, woman and child in the US would recieve over one hundred thousand each. It's going to Dems bogus green CCX investments (even to this day), payroll for only union member govt jobs, purchasing GM, etc. etc. And they want you to think that the next round of taxes that you all support is going to go for something good for you. I'd rather buy the Brooklyn Bridge! I say, if you don't pay taxes and you're not on SSI due to age or a true disabiliy, you shouldn't be allowed to vote!</p>
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		<title>By: Sil</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-67809</link>
		<dc:creator>Sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kodera, try this on for size, if it wasn&#039;t for the Democrats voting for tax, the Republicans wouldn&#039;t have anything to spend. Remember, the Republicans are the ones that have always driven this country to it&#039;s knees economically. ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kodera, try this on for size, if it wasn't for the Democrats voting for tax, the Republicans wouldn't have anything to spend. Remember, the Republicans are the ones that have always driven this country to it's knees economically. ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-67749</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree...California tried to sales tax labor years ago and I think just about all businesses called their congressmen/representatives and discouraged them to bother trying to get that tax passed.  They left it alone once they got enough feedback.

Shipping is not a luxury item, it&#039;s not personal property nor is it a tangible asset.  It&#039;s simply a service or labor fee.  No tax should apply or else it would be cheaper to make the purchase a the local Ford dealer, they don&#039;t charge for shipping unless you need it faster than normal time periods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree...California tried to sales tax labor years ago and I think just about all businesses called their congressmen/representatives and discouraged them to bother trying to get that tax passed.  They left it alone once they got enough feedback.</p>
<p>Shipping is not a luxury item, it's not personal property nor is it a tangible asset.  It's simply a service or labor fee.  No tax should apply or else it would be cheaper to make the purchase a the local Ford dealer, they don't charge for shipping unless you need it faster than normal time periods.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Poff</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-67697</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Poff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford Company charged me tax on shipping which sucks. 26 bucks shipping on a 30 dollar order was not bad enough but to add tax on shipping should be illegal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford Company charged me tax on shipping which sucks. 26 bucks shipping on a 30 dollar order was not bad enough but to add tax on shipping should be illegal</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-66606</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the California plan on sales tax or the franchise tax board. Tax is 9.75 %.

Mailed order sub total is $100.  Shipping is free. Total is $109.75.
Mailed order sub total is $100.  Shipping $5. Total is $105. Tax is $9.75.
Mailed order sub total is $100. Shipping/handling is $10. Tax is $10.73.

The key, per the FTB, is; if the retailer doesn&#039;t keep sepperate records on the final shipping fee&#039;s for each sale, the state says they have to collect sales tax on the entire sale including shipping and handling. The reason is, the state wants to be able to see the shipping as a sepperate entry on their accounting and if it&#039;s all co-mingled with the sale totals only, they cannot confirm if the retailer is collecting the correct amount so to make all easy for the auditors/state, they just simply fold their hands and say, TAX &#039;EM.

So, retailers who decide not to keep records on shipping here in CA, they will, or are supposed to, tax to total amount.

Those who want to compete with us shoppers will keep shipping records for the state to monitor and then, there&#039;s no tax.  Mind you if they do keep records, there&#039;s no tax on handling either so, no tax on shipping and/or handling if separate records are kept by the retailer. 

Those retailers and e-tailers who want to be lazy will pass the taxes onto us.  Those who don&#039;t will get my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's the California plan on sales tax or the franchise tax board. Tax is 9.75 %.</p>
<p>Mailed order sub total is $100.  Shipping is free. Total is $109.75.<br />
Mailed order sub total is $100.  Shipping $5. Total is $105. Tax is $9.75.<br />
Mailed order sub total is $100. Shipping/handling is $10. Tax is $10.73.</p>
<p>The key, per the FTB, is; if the retailer doesn't keep sepperate records on the final shipping fee's for each sale, the state says they have to collect sales tax on the entire sale including shipping and handling. The reason is, the state wants to be able to see the shipping as a sepperate entry on their accounting and if it's all co-mingled with the sale totals only, they cannot confirm if the retailer is collecting the correct amount so to make all easy for the auditors/state, they just simply fold their hands and say, TAX 'EM.</p>
<p>So, retailers who decide not to keep records on shipping here in CA, they will, or are supposed to, tax to total amount.</p>
<p>Those who want to compete with us shoppers will keep shipping records for the state to monitor and then, there's no tax.  Mind you if they do keep records, there's no tax on handling either so, no tax on shipping and/or handling if separate records are kept by the retailer. </p>
<p>Those retailers and e-tailers who want to be lazy will pass the taxes onto us.  Those who don't will get my business.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-66513</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo !!! There&#039;s only one place WORSE &quot;New York&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo !!! There's only one place WORSE "New York"</p>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/16/sales_tax_on_shipping#comment-66446</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on your state, actually.  In Texas, you must pay tax on both goods and services (labor).  Stinks, but it&#039;s state tax law here.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on your state, actually.  In Texas, you must pay tax on both goods and services (labor).  Stinks, but it's state tax law here.  <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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