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	<title>Comments on: DirecTV Plus HD-DVR Coming</title>
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		<title>By: T. WEBB</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-41594</link>
		<dc:creator>T. WEBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE JUST BOUGHT THE DIRECTV PLUS HD DVR AND WE ALREADY BOUGHT A TRIPLE LNB OVAL DISH THINKING THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED.  PRESENTLY WE HAVE DIRECTIVO &#38; A DUAL LNB DISH WITH A TERK OTA ANTENNA FOR LOCAL PROGRAMS.    WE ACTUALLY GET LOCAL HD PROGAMS, THIS SYSTEM WORKS GREAT.   MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THE TRIPLE LNB W/TERK OTA ANTENNA WORK WITH THE NEW HD DVR? :?:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE JUST BOUGHT THE DIRECTV PLUS HD DVR AND WE ALREADY BOUGHT A TRIPLE LNB OVAL DISH THINKING THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED.  PRESENTLY WE HAVE DIRECTIVO &amp; A DUAL LNB DISH WITH A TERK OTA ANTENNA FOR LOCAL PROGRAMS.    WE ACTUALLY GET LOCAL HD PROGAMS, THIS SYSTEM WORKS GREAT.   MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THE TRIPLE LNB W/TERK OTA ANTENNA WORK WITH THE NEW HD DVR? <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25654</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="25633"]My friends are telling me the 5-LNB is a beast and their installer wouldn't install it on their roof. Is it really that heavy/big/problematic? I'm looking at a Chimney installation which should handle anything.[/quote]

It's larger. Ask the installer(s) in your area. I had mine installed on a pole in the ground.

[quote comment="25633"]They also said one of the satellites is so low, unless you live in a field you won't get the signal, true?[/quote]

No. They're at the same height in the sky but at different angles across the sky, from 99&#176; to 119&#176; I believe.

[quote comment="25633"]Does the Box require a separate subscription like TIVO or is that just part of the monthly DirecTV fees?[/quote]

It requires a monthly DVR fee. Why, I don't know, but it does. :-P

[quote comment="25633"]I have a 2-LNB DirecTV setup for Standard TV, I assume I'll be needing to rewire the works to handle HD.[/quote]

I don't know. My 3-LNB dish had four lines out of it and received all HD channels except the MPEG-4 local channels. It required no re-wiring at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25633">P. Smith said</a> on November 28, 2006:</p>
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My friends are telling me the 5-LNB is a beast and their installer wouldn't install it on their roof. Is it really that heavy/big/problematic? I'm looking at a Chimney installation which should handle anything.</p>
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<p>It's larger. Ask the installer(s) in your area. I had mine installed on a pole in the ground.</p>
<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25633">P. Smith said</a> on November 28, 2006:</p>
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They also said one of the satellites is so low, unless you live in a field you won't get the signal, true?</p>
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<p>No. They're at the same height in the sky but at different angles across the sky, from 99&deg; to 119&deg; I believe.</p>
<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25633">P. Smith said</a> on November 28, 2006:</p>
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Does the Box require a separate subscription like TIVO or is that just part of the monthly DirecTV fees?</p>
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<p>It requires a monthly DVR fee. Why, I don't know, but it does. <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25633">P. Smith said</a> on November 28, 2006:</p>
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I have a 2-LNB DirecTV setup for Standard TV, I assume I'll be needing to rewire the works to handle HD.</p>
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<p>I don't know. My 3-LNB dish had four lines out of it and received all HD channels except the MPEG-4 local channels. It required no re-wiring at all.</p>
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		<title>By: P. Smith</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-25633</link>
		<dc:creator>P. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a few questions:

My friends are telling me the 5-LNB is a beast and their installer wouldn't install it on their roof.  Is it really that heavy/big/problematic?  I'm looking at a Chimney installation which should handle anything.

They also said one of the satellites is so low, unless you live in a field you won't get the signal, true?

Does the Box require a separate subscription like TIVO or is that just part of the monthly DirecTV fees?

I have a 2-LNB DirecTV setup for Standard TV, I assume I'll be needing to rewire the works to handle HD.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a few questions:</p>
<p>My friends are telling me the 5-LNB is a beast and their installer wouldn't install it on their roof.  Is it really that heavy/big/problematic?  I'm looking at a Chimney installation which should handle anything.</p>
<p>They also said one of the satellites is so low, unless you live in a field you won't get the signal, true?</p>
<p>Does the Box require a separate subscription like TIVO or is that just part of the monthly DirecTV fees?</p>
<p>I have a 2-LNB DirecTV setup for Standard TV, I assume I'll be needing to rewire the works to handle HD.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24527</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="24517"]The phone line is "strongly desired" by DTV for PPV and other items.  I was able to get my installer to not care after some coaxing ("I never use PPV, it's a rip-off." is what that amounted to).[/quote]

Yeah, but my "installer" is just installing the dish. He's not being paid by DirecTV, he's being paid by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24517">Adam Knight said</a> on November 22, 2006:</p>
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The phone line is "strongly desired" by DTV for PPV and other items.  I was able to get my installer to not care after some coaxing ("I never use PPV, it's a rip-off." is what that amounted to).</p>
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<p>Yeah, but my "installer" is just installing the dish. He's not being paid by DirecTV, he's being paid by me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Knight</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24517</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phone line is "strongly desired" by DTV for PPV and other items.  I was able to get my installer to not care after some coaxing ("I never use PPV, it's a rip-off." is what that amounted to).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phone line is "strongly desired" by DTV for PPV and other items.  I was able to get my installer to not care after some coaxing ("I never use PPV, it's a rip-off." is what that amounted to).</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24080</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="24018"]But DTV wouldn't even install it without a land line. When the installer showed up he said he wasn't allowed to install it unless he could hook it up to a phone line initially (same thing the person on the phone said when I ordered it, but told them I had a phone line just to see if I could get away with it at install).[/quote]

DirecTV uses local satellite businesses. They outsource their installs. So far as I know, it's not their policy at all to "require" a phone line. Some of the TiVo models require a phone line, but that's how TiVo has always worked, and that too is unrelated to DTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24018">Greg Smith said</a> on November 19, 2006:</p>
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But DTV wouldn't even install it without a land line. When the installer showed up he said he wasn't allowed to install it unless he could hook it up to a phone line initially (same thing the person on the phone said when I ordered it, but told them I had a phone line just to see if I could get away with it at install).</p>
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<p>DirecTV uses local satellite businesses. They outsource their installs. So far as I know, it's not their policy at all to "require" a phone line. Some of the TiVo models require a phone line, but that's how TiVo has always worked, and that too is unrelated to DTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Smith</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24018</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same is the case for Dish, you don't use the phone line unless you need to order PPV. But DTV wouldn't even install it without a land line. When the installer showed up he said he wasn't allowed to install it unless he could hook it up to a phone line initially (same thing the person on the phone said when I ordered it, but told them I had a phone line just to see if I could get away with it at install). 

When the Dish installer came he just said I wouldn't be able to order PPV but installed it without complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same is the case for Dish, you don't use the phone line unless you need to order PPV. But DTV wouldn't even install it without a land line. When the installer showed up he said he wasn't allowed to install it unless he could hook it up to a phone line initially (same thing the person on the phone said when I ordered it, but told them I had a phone line just to see if I could get away with it at install). </p>
<p>When the Dish installer came he just said I wouldn't be able to order PPV but installed it without complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24016</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="24014"]One problem with DirecTV is they wont hook up your system without a land line, when I moved into my new house I went cell only.[/quote]

Not true. This receiver doesn't need a land line unless you order PPV movies and, soon, will be able to integrate via your home network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24014">Greg Smith said</a> on November 19, 2006:</p>
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One problem with DirecTV is they wont hook up your system without a land line, when I moved into my new house I went cell only.</p>
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<p>Not true. This receiver doesn't need a land line unless you order PPV movies and, soon, will be able to integrate via your home network.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Smith</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-24014</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through the same exercise several months ago. I was a DirecTivo owner and liked it but ultimately dropped DTV for Dish. One problem with DirecTV is they wont hook up your system without a land line, when I moved into my new house I went cell only. Second, Dish has more HD channels. Third, their 622 receiver is very nice, nearly as good as a Tivo IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through the same exercise several months ago. I was a DirecTivo owner and liked it but ultimately dropped DTV for Dish. One problem with DirecTV is they wont hook up your system without a land line, when I moved into my new house I went cell only. Second, Dish has more HD channels. Third, their 622 receiver is very nice, nearly as good as a Tivo IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2006/11/18/directv_plus_hd-dvr_coming#comment-23808</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an extra $9.99/month, I can get seven more HD channels: ESPN, ESPN2, Bravo, TNT, Discovery HD, HDNet, and HDNet Movies.

I'm not sure it's worth ten bucks per month. The locals in HD are included in the basic &lt;a href="http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/channelChart1.jsp?assetId=900040"&gt;Total Choice Plus&lt;/a&gt; package, and that's all Carey and I will likely ever watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an extra $9.99/month, I can get seven more HD channels: ESPN, ESPN2, Bravo, TNT, Discovery HD, HDNet, and HDNet Movies.</p>
<p>I'm not sure it's worth ten bucks per month. The locals in HD are included in the basic <a href="http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/channelChart1.jsp?assetId=900040">Total Choice Plus</a> package, and that's all Carey and I will likely ever watch.</p>
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