Comments on: QotD: Metric System for the U.S.? http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Wed, 23 May 2012 23:05:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kratos http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-50819 kratos Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:16:52 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-50819 well my class has a debate on metric vs imperiel. i have metric side does anybody have any facts about how metric is easier to convert, how the U.S should switch to it , and how it is easier to learn :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: well my class has a debate on metric vs imperiel. i have metric side does anybody have any facts about how metric is easier to convert, how the U.S should switch to it , and how it is easier to learn :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

]]> By: David Smith http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-44120 David Smith Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:05:58 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-44120 :evil: WTF!!! why use standard when u can just use metric?????? it is easier yes it would be costly but oh F**king well!!! it seems a lot more useful anyways.... :!: :!: :!: :evil: WTF!!! why use standard when u can just use metric?????? it is easier yes it would be costly but oh F**king well!!! it seems a lot more useful anyways.... :!: :!: :!:

]]> By: Juergen Trodler http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-43473 Juergen Trodler Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:52:28 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-43473 Reply to: Why does the EU keep extending the deadline for "metric only" on all imports. Could be a great way to cut out your competition. Who in the world would buy a product listed in pounds and inches? And think about this: Why would the EU not pay somebody to lobby in Washington on behalf of our imperial system! What a great way to kill your competition. Keep wasting time teaching inches, pounds an gallons. Keep adding costs to manufactured products and most of all keep converting. You will love all those wonderfull errors made by working in both systems. I have worked in the tool and die industry my whole life and should know what I am talking about. But then again - pushing for a fast change to metric ( not over ten or twenty years) could cost a senator the vote of the people worried about the inchworm. Reply to: Why does the EU keep extending the deadline for "metric only" on all imports.
Could be a great way to cut out your competition. Who in the world would buy a product listed in pounds and inches? And think about this: Why would the EU not pay somebody to lobby in Washington on behalf of our imperial system! What a great way to kill your competition. Keep wasting time teaching inches, pounds an gallons. Keep adding costs to manufactured products and most of all keep converting. You will love all those wonderfull errors made by working in both systems.
I have worked in the tool and die industry my whole life and should know what I am talking about.
But then again - pushing for a fast change to metric ( not over ten or twenty years) could cost a senator the vote of the people worried about the inchworm.

]]> By: Windstone http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-41471 Windstone Fri, 11 May 2007 21:20:32 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-41471 [quote comment="41462"]My idea: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 seconds in a minute. [/quote] Read one of my previous posts and you'll know it's not a new idea. I sometimes thik this idea would be even better if the new time unit was not called [i]second[/i], if it was given a new name like [i]chron[/i] (from Greek [i]kronos[/i] meaning time) by example. It's hard to convert m/s into km/h but if you were on a motorway where speed limit was 30 meters per chron and your destination city was indicated 120 km away, you would say immediatly "4 kilochrons remaining". But a French proverb says "With if's and because's you could put Paris inside a bottle" But the reason of this post is the following one : I got bad news for metric fans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6637587.stm The European Union plans to ban imports that are not metric only labbelled from december 31st 2009. It was first sheduled for 1978, then for 1989, then for 2000 and I think it will be postponed again. Why would the European Union, in spite of a strong Euro, try to impose outside what it can't impose on its own territory ? jason said on May 10, 2007:

My idea: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 seconds in a minute.

Read one of my previous posts and you'll know it's not a new idea. I sometimes thik this idea would be even better if the new time unit was not called [i]second[/i], if it was given a new name like [i]chron[/i] (from Greek [i]kronos[/i] meaning time) by example. It's hard to convert m/s into km/h but if you were on a motorway where speed limit was 30 meters per chron and your destination city was indicated 120 km away, you would say immediatly "4 kilochrons remaining". But a French proverb says "With if's and because's you could put Paris inside a bottle"

But the reason of this post is the following one : I got bad news for metric fans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6637587.stm
The European Union plans to ban imports that are not metric only labbelled from december 31st 2009. It was first sheduled for 1978, then for 1989, then for 2000 and I think it will be postponed again. Why would the European Union, in spite of a strong Euro, try to impose outside what it can't impose on its own territory ?

]]> By: Roger W http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-41468 Roger W Fri, 11 May 2007 10:28:26 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-41468 Think about that it only takes a generation to make a complete change. If we change now all born from this point on would be accustomed to the metric system. For everyone else If the news gives a report of someone weighing for example 75kg maybe show a silhouette of what that size would look like. I believe that along with visuals people will be able to relate better. Do you think the US drives alot of the other countries to use the standard system? Think about that it only takes a generation to make a complete change. If we change now all born from this point on would be accustomed to the metric system. For everyone else If the news gives a report of someone weighing for example 75kg maybe show a silhouette of what that size would look like. I believe that along with visuals people will be able to relate better. Do you think the US drives alot of the other countries to use the standard system?

]]> By: jason http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-41462 jason Thu, 10 May 2007 21:12:49 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-41462 I'm all for metric - including metric time - and I'm American. Anyone wonder why TV's are measured in inches? It's because America is still the power house buyer of all time. If America switched to metric, then all too soon TVs would be advertised in metric. The American government can't be worried about the cost of it, it loves to spend money. Pick one - say volume - and covert, then pick another - weight - and covert, then finally convert distance. And I've thought about metric time for a long time. The only thing is the definition of a second would have to change, so we'd have to change all the record books. My idea: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 seconds in a minute. Think of how much it'll help the US economy... all those jobs converting signs, mile markers, rulers, labels on products, record books - the list is endless, well, until you're done. (The only greater effect to the US economy would be tax reform, but that's another discussion I'd be happy to talk to anyone about.) I'm all for metric - including metric time - and I'm American. Anyone wonder why TV's are measured in inches? It's because America is still the power house buyer of all time. If America switched to metric, then all too soon TVs would be advertised in metric.

The American government can't be worried about the cost of it, it loves to spend money. Pick one - say volume - and covert, then pick another - weight - and covert, then finally convert distance.

And I've thought about metric time for a long time. The only thing is the definition of a second would have to change, so we'd have to change all the record books. My idea: 10 hours in a day, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 seconds in a minute.

Think of how much it'll help the US economy... all those jobs converting signs, mile markers, rulers, labels on products, record books - the list is endless, well, until you're done. (The only greater effect to the US economy would be tax reform, but that's another discussion I'd be happy to talk to anyone about.)

]]> By: Markus http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-40993 Markus Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:08:45 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-40993 I agree with the idea of dual units for somethings. Report everything primarily in metric with parenthentic US Customary measurements in a smaller font. Over time, the metric values will sink in. Give the weather in metric, write news stories in metric, do everyrhing in metric and the relativism of measurement will win out. Once people have a frame of reference, they won't care. "The accident ocurred 50 metres past the Rt. 101 Texaco" (show a picture) "Tomorrow, temperatures will be between 15-17C" (provide context, like, "today was 15deg C") "It's reported that 3000 Kiloliters of contaminated milk have shipped to stores accross the midwest. Thats 3000 1000s, or 3 million liter bottles of milk" "A man was seen fleeing on foot. His weight is estimated to be around 75kg, height 155 centimeters" (again, context, like average height for a man is 175 cm; 80 kg..etc) I agree with the idea of dual units for somethings. Report everything primarily in metric with parenthentic US Customary measurements in a smaller font. Over time, the metric values will sink in. Give the weather in metric, write news stories in metric, do everyrhing in metric and the relativism of measurement will win out. Once people have a frame of reference, they won't care.

"The accident ocurred 50 metres past the Rt. 101 Texaco" (show a picture)
"Tomorrow, temperatures will be between 15-17C" (provide context, like, "today was 15deg C")
"It's reported that 3000 Kiloliters of contaminated milk have shipped to stores accross the midwest. Thats 3000 1000s, or 3 million liter bottles of milk"
"A man was seen fleeing on foot. His weight is estimated to be around 75kg, height 155 centimeters" (again, context, like average height for a man is 175 cm; 80 kg..etc)

]]> By: Gideon http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-40982 Gideon Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:47:25 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-40982 I am a current student in highschool, and have just finished chemistry. I have already wasted one whole trimester of my life in school using conversions for all sorts of equations. It is definitely hard enough to pass a honors class without using superfluous and confusing measurements. We already mainly use the metric system in school, why waste tax dollars so we can keep a more confusing way of measuring. Everyone more or less knows how to use the metric system. I am a current student in highschool, and have just finished chemistry.
I have already wasted one whole trimester of my life in school using conversions for all sorts of equations. It is definitely hard enough to pass a honors class without using superfluous and confusing measurements. We already mainly use the metric system in school, why waste tax dollars so we can keep a more confusing way of measuring. Everyone more or less knows how to use the metric system.

]]> By: Juergen Trodler http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-39941 Juergen Trodler Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:29:20 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-39941 Question for all those inch/pound/gallon people. What happened to the once mighty manufacturing industry in the US. Going......going .......just about gone. Can not compete and not just because of wages. It is a lot cheaper to manufacture in metric. Can not sell, nobody wants product build to inch standard. What happende to the Machine Tool Industry? Where have all the big companies gone? Bridgebort? Kerney Trecker? Bausch and Lomb? Warner Swasey? Cincinnati-Millacron and all the others? Try to buy a US made machine - good luck. And real quick: how many 12 oz beers from a 1/2 barrel? There are 100 (1/2 liter) glasses in a 50 liter barrel. Question for all those inch/pound/gallon people.
What happened to the once mighty manufacturing industry in the US. Going......going .......just about gone. Can not compete and not just because of wages. It is a lot cheaper to manufacture in metric. Can not sell, nobody wants product build to inch standard. What happende to the Machine Tool Industry? Where have all the big companies gone? Bridgebort? Kerney Trecker? Bausch and Lomb? Warner Swasey? Cincinnati-Millacron and all the others? Try to buy a US made machine - good luck.
And real quick: how many 12 oz beers from a 1/2 barrel?
There are 100 (1/2 liter) glasses in a 50 liter barrel.

]]> By: Windstone http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us#comment-39877 Windstone Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:31:48 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/01/13/qotd_metric_system_for_the_us/#comment-39877 What do you guys think about this idea : starting metrication by medias. Obliging media to anounce measurements in both systems. Or metric only. But if journalist writes or says a measurement in the anglo-saxon system, he would have to specify its metric equivalent By example : One day I watched a football game played in Chicago. On the beggining of the game, it was written on the screen "Temperature : 25°". Why not "-4°C / 25°F" ? What do you guys think about this idea : starting metrication by medias. Obliging media to anounce measurements in both systems. Or metric only. But if journalist writes or says a measurement in the anglo-saxon system, he would have to specify its metric equivalent

By example : One day I watched a football game played in Chicago. On the beggining of the game, it was written on the screen "Temperature : 25°". Why not "-4°C / 25°F" ?

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