Comments on: Fragmentation http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:30:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Paul Schreiber http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43546 Paul Schreiber Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:15:01 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43546 DiskWarrior is worth the money to have around. Remember, it optimizes the disk's directory, which is very difference from optimizing the disk (i.e. defragmenting). Defragmenting is a was of time, unless you are doing video editing and want GB of contiguous blocks. DiskWarrior is worth the money to have around.

Remember, it optimizes the disk's directory, which is very difference from optimizing the disk (i.e. defragmenting).

Defragmenting is a was of time, unless you are doing video editing and want GB of contiguous blocks.

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43479 Erik J. Barzeski Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:28:46 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43479 [quote comment="43471"]I used to love to watch the defrag program do its thing on my original IBM clone 8088 processor pc, with the massive 10MB hard disk.[/quote] PCs have always had a much greater need to defrag than Macs. Much, much greater. PC people I knew defragged almost daily while I'd not defrag for YEARS, if ever. JP said on September 25, 2007:

I used to love to watch the defrag program do its thing on my original IBM clone 8088 processor pc, with the massive 10MB hard disk.

PCs have always had a much greater need to defrag than Macs. Much, much greater. PC people I knew defragged almost daily while I'd not defrag for YEARS, if ever.

]]> By: JP http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43471 JP Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:36:51 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43471 I used to love to watch the defrag program do its thing on my original IBM clone 8088 processor pc, with the massive 10MB hard disk. You could hear the platters spinnin' and workin', and the nifty little graphic gave you the image of a robotic maid or butler dashing all around your house, cleaning up the clutter and organizing it to boot. I've never noticed any difference after defragging, but I can believe what Alex is saying about it possibly helping with audio/visual files, etc. I used to love to watch the defrag program do its thing on my original IBM clone 8088 processor pc, with the massive 10MB hard disk. You could hear the platters spinnin' and workin', and the nifty little graphic gave you the image of a robotic maid or butler dashing all around your house, cleaning up the clutter and organizing it to boot.

I've never noticed any difference after defragging, but I can believe what Alex is saying about it possibly helping with audio/visual files, etc.

]]> By: Steve http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43453 Steve Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:49:41 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43453 I agree with John C. Welch - DiskWarrior is maybe not worth the money *just* as an optimizer, but if you consider it can *repair* non-bootable start up disks as well, then it starts to become worth it. (As I found out once!) I agree with John C. Welch - DiskWarrior is maybe not worth the money *just* as an optimizer, but if you consider it can *repair* non-bootable start up disks as well, then it starts to become worth it. (As I found out once!)

]]> By: Alex http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43452 Alex Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:40:33 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43452 I use idefrag, and it pleases me. In time/write sensitive situations like recording audio/video (especially the real time variety) fragmentation can be a serious issue. I don't know that it makes my disks feel "faster", but when they get fragmented our multi layer real time audio recordings can stutter. A run of iDefrag fixes it right up. I'd say your average user doesn't need to worry about it. If you have a large amount of video or audio files (over 20 MB) it might be useful, though a cursory look at your picture shows a drive far less shredded than mine get. If you were looking at purchasing one or the other, I'd say Diskwarrior just because it's saved my machine once, which made it worth the cost. I use idefrag, and it pleases me. In time/write sensitive situations like recording audio/video (especially the real time variety) fragmentation can be a serious issue. I don't know that it makes my disks feel "faster", but when they get fragmented our multi layer real time audio recordings can stutter. A run of iDefrag fixes it right up. I'd say your average user doesn't need to worry about it. If you have a large amount of video or audio files (over 20 MB) it might be useful, though a cursory look at your picture shows a drive far less shredded than mine get. If you were looking at purchasing one or the other, I'd say Diskwarrior just because it's saved my machine once, which made it worth the cost.

]]> By: Erik J. Barzeski http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43438 Erik J. Barzeski Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:35:21 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43438 [quote comment="43435"]Disk Warrior is not really an optimization tool. It's a directory repair tool, and while it will optimize drive structures somewhat, using it as an optimization tool is not really using it correctly.[/quote] While that's true to some extent, even the DW manual contains phrases like "DiskWarrior optimizes the directory, improving the speed of all of these activities and many more." John C. Welch said on September 22, 2007:

Disk Warrior is not really an optimization tool. It's a directory repair tool, and while it will optimize drive structures somewhat, using it as an optimization tool is not really using it correctly.

While that's true to some extent, even the DW manual contains phrases like "DiskWarrior optimizes the directory, improving the speed of all of these activities and many more."

]]> By: Tom http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43436 Tom Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:15:19 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43436 I use Cocktail once a week and feel it is a good piece of software. If it actually does anything, well, I really don't know, but I can say i enjoy believing it does because my system has never went down. I use Cocktail once a week and feel it is a good piece of software. If it actually does anything, well, I really don't know, but I can say i enjoy believing it does because my system has never went down.

]]> By: John C. Welch http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43435 John C. Welch Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:37:43 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43435 Disk Warrior is not really an optimization tool. It's a directory repair tool, and while it will optimize drive structures somewhat, using it as an optimization tool is not really using it correctly. Disk Warrior is not really an optimization tool. It's a directory repair tool, and while it will optimize drive structures somewhat, using it as an optimization tool is not really using it correctly.

]]> By: Ludovic Hirlimann http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43433 Ludovic Hirlimann Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:51:06 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43433 I did some optomization once back in 2001/2002 - I choosed where to swap and that was it. It wasn't worth the effort. As of today i don't feel the need to. I did some optomization once back in 2001/2002 - I choosed where to swap and that was it. It wasn't worth the effort. As of today i don't feel the need to.

]]> By: Bryan http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43431 Bryan Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:29:27 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/09/21/fragmentation#comment-43431 Me, either. Me, either.

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