Comments on: Beware Leopard’s ‘Secure Empty Trash’ http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash The Weblog of Erik J. Barzeski Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:53:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Logan Forand http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-48863 Logan Forand Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:10:56 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-48863 Most files even apps on mac are like folders, when you right click and select show package contents there's tons more files in there. So when the secure delete deletes it gets rid of every file inside it. Hope this helps... Most files even apps on mac are like folders, when you right click and select show package contents there's tons more files in there.

So when the secure delete deletes it gets rid of every file inside it.

Hope this helps...

]]> By: Jonathan A. http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-48220 Jonathan A. Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:18:31 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-48220 I'm glad I found this blog. I actually Googled 'secure empty trash and time machine' to arrive at this page, and my suspicions are correct: I'm not the only dude that holds the "Time Machine / Secure Emtpy Trash / Why in the world is my macbook "deleting" like 350 items when I erased ONE file?" Anywho, I hope they catch on to it quickly. Let me say that I like Time Machine. I would just note that when I choose "Empty Trash", the number of files that are being deleted corresponds with the number of files ACTUALLY in the trash folder. Strangely enough, if "Secure" emptying is necessary, why is it that I can't "securelyl delete" after I "simply delete" ? It seems like the simple "Empty Trash" feature simply, well, deletes!!! Thanks for the input, folks. Happy mac-usage!!! -J I'm glad I found this blog. I actually Googled 'secure empty trash and time machine' to arrive at this page, and my suspicions are correct: I'm not the only dude that holds the "Time Machine / Secure Emtpy Trash / Why in the world is my macbook "deleting" like 350 items when I erased ONE file?"

Anywho, I hope they catch on to it quickly.

Let me say that I like Time Machine. I would just note that when I choose "Empty Trash", the number of files that are being deleted corresponds with the number of files ACTUALLY in the trash folder.

Strangely enough, if "Secure" emptying is necessary, why is it that I can't "securelyl delete" after I "simply delete" ? It seems like the simple "Empty Trash" feature simply, well, deletes!!!

Thanks for the input, folks. Happy mac-usage!!!

-J

]]> By: Stimpy777 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44517 Stimpy777 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:27:43 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44517 For me, If I use OnyX to securely delete the trash first, apples secure delete works again until I restart. Then it stops working again and just hangs For me, If I use OnyX to securely delete the trash first, apples secure delete works again until I restart. Then it stops working again and just hangs

]]> By: marco http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44457 marco Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:51:34 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44457 secure delete doesn't work at all.. and also erasing free space with a higher security option doesn't work at all. i dunno if u guys are working with an original OS and if what cpus u got. also i cannot find the beloved apple effects (like reverb, compressor, delay aso..) on leopard anymore. and apart from that i cannot get ableton live to run... so if anyone has any real clue about that i would be very happy... i have leopard on a pb g4 1ghz and on a macmini g4 1,5 ghz installed... on the g4 i use tiger 10.4.11 as a second OS... and mainly because of the issue with effects of apple i am thinking of downgrading to tiger again.. i really need a fully working OS... and yeah its piracy... i was thinking of buying it when i am sure everything runs just fine what it simply doesn't... i don't use timemachine on the macmini but on the pb and i have the same issues on both... secure delete doesn't work at all.. and also erasing free space with a higher security option doesn't work at all. i dunno if u guys are working with an original OS and if what cpus u got. also i cannot find the beloved apple effects (like reverb, compressor, delay aso..)
on leopard anymore. and apart from that i cannot get ableton live to run...
so if anyone has any real clue about that i would be very happy...

i have leopard on a pb g4 1ghz and on a macmini g4 1,5 ghz installed... on the g4 i use tiger 10.4.11 as a second OS... and mainly because of the issue with effects of apple i am thinking of downgrading to tiger again.. i really need a fully working OS... and yeah its piracy... i was thinking of buying it when i am sure everything runs just fine what it simply doesn't... i don't use timemachine on the macmini but on the pb and i have the same issues on both...

]]> By: Brad http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44449 Brad Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:48:33 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44449 Im having the same problem, hope they fix it soon. I thought security would be quite an important issue to get right first. Im having the same problem, hope they fix it soon. I thought security would be quite an important issue to get right first.

]]> By: Aaron http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44447 Aaron Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:32:47 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44447 Time machine did not really have anything to do with me. I simply restarted the computer again, and all of a sudden it started working again. Time machine did not really have anything to do with me. I simply restarted the computer again, and all of a sudden it started working again.

]]> By: Don http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44350 Don Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:02:38 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44350 The problem seems to revolve around Time Machine! At least on my install of Leopard, I could not figure out why the Secure Delete would no longer work. It always stopped at about 4. I played awhile and figured out that if I shut off Time Machine and removed the FireWire drive from time Machine... Secure Delete worked just fine again. So, to me this would say that it's Time Machine behind the problem. Apple needs to focus on Time Machine to correct this issue. Just my opinion. The problem seems to revolve around Time Machine!

At least on my install of Leopard, I could not figure out why the Secure Delete would no longer work. It always stopped at about 4.

I played awhile and figured out that if I shut off Time Machine and removed the FireWire drive from time Machine... Secure Delete worked just fine again.

So, to me this would say that it's Time Machine behind the problem.

Apple needs to focus on Time Machine to correct this issue.

Just my opinion.

]]> By: Aaron http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44164 Aaron Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:28:23 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44164 I have trouble using the key combination for secure empty trash. I use command+option+shift+return and for some reason it says any number between 1000-6000 items being deleted. What does that mean? I have trouble using the key combination for secure empty trash. I use command+option+shift+return and for some reason it says any number between 1000-6000 items being deleted. What does that mean?

]]> By: rd http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44113 rd Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:40:53 +0000 http://nslog.com/2007/10/31/beware_leopards_secure_empty_trash#comment-44113 so does srm srm -s works or not tht is what I use. so does
srm
srm -s

works or not tht is what I use.

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