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	<title>Comments on: 10.5.2 and AirPort Network Drops</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-47995</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same problem with a TimeCapsule (1TB) and an iMac (several Macbooks on my network as well).

iMac and one MB are on Leopard and the other 4 MB are on the latest version (updated) Tiger.

Everything is secured with WPA 2

For me - the setup for the TC was in Bridge Mode and since I set it up to distribute a range of IP addresses through DHCP, everything on the network is working perfect.

Seems speedier as well and not only on the iMac but also on the MB's which cannot do 802.11n.

Dunno if it helps but, I post it here anyway - maybe you can try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem with a TimeCapsule (1TB) and an iMac (several Macbooks on my network as well).</p>
<p>iMac and one MB are on Leopard and the other 4 MB are on the latest version (updated) Tiger.</p>
<p>Everything is secured with WPA 2</p>
<p>For me - the setup for the TC was in Bridge Mode and since I set it up to distribute a range of IP addresses through DHCP, everything on the network is working perfect.</p>
<p>Seems speedier as well and not only on the iMac but also on the MB's which cannot do 802.11n.</p>
<p>Dunno if it helps but, I post it here anyway - maybe you can try.</p>
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		<title>By: arlene marshack</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-47924</link>
		<dc:creator>arlene marshack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the problem and finally had to get a new airport card for my macbook pro.  
I upgraded to Leopard after that and haven't had any more problems.
Maybe the airport cards are defective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the problem and finally had to get a new airport card for my macbook pro.<br />
I upgraded to Leopard after that and haven't had any more problems.<br />
Maybe the airport cards are defective.</p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-47921</link>
		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just updated to 10.5.3 airport still dropping out every time i load a page, will scan and reload when I click the airpot icon

the same happens on both networks i use at home and work, I have pcs running with no problems

this is really annoying !!!!!!!!!!,

 recently changed to mac after much prompting from a few mac users, my macbook is 2 months old i am ready to get rid of it

APPLE PLEASE SORT THIS OUT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just updated to 10.5.3 airport still dropping out every time i load a page, will scan and reload when I click the airpot icon</p>
<p>the same happens on both networks i use at home and work, I have pcs running with no problems</p>
<p>this is really annoying !!!!!!!!!!,</p>
<p> recently changed to mac after much prompting from a few mac users, my macbook is 2 months old i am ready to get rid of it</p>
<p>APPLE PLEASE SORT THIS OUT</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-47758</link>
		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to find a solution to my airport problems brought me here, at least I am not alone!  :sad: 

They have got to sort this out, I recently switched to mac from windows, and have had more problems with my mac than I ever did with a windows computer.

At least I knew what I was doing with a PC! 

My mac is 3 months old, and there has been times where I had enough of these stupid airport problems and have been very close to taking the thing back to the shop.

Sort it out Apple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to find a solution to my airport problems brought me here, at least I am not alone!  <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They have got to sort this out, I recently switched to mac from windows, and have had more problems with my mac than I ever did with a windows computer.</p>
<p>At least I knew what I was doing with a PC! </p>
<p>My mac is 3 months old, and there has been times where I had enough of these stupid airport problems and have been very close to taking the thing back to the shop.</p>
<p>Sort it out Apple</p>
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		<title>By: arlene marshack</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-47223</link>
		<dc:creator>arlene marshack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been having the same problem and I made an appointment to have a new airport card installed (for about (185 with labor)
I checked the apple support disussions again to see if there was anything new on there and one of the members "seattlemacboy) solved his problem by deleting .all but one of his preferred networks listed in the airport pane.
I tried this and so far my connection hasn't dropped for about 10 hours now.  I don't think that the problem has been solved, but for now I am satisfied and won't spend the money on a new airport card which probably won't solve the problem either.
Also, he suggested  make sure you"leave the setting under the Options button the "Automatically add new networks to the preferred networks list" unchecked or the problem will return.
So far, its working. 
Also, my macpro is running 10.4 and it is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been having the same problem and I made an appointment to have a new airport card installed (for about (185 with labor)<br />
I checked the apple support disussions again to see if there was anything new on there and one of the members "seattlemacboy) solved his problem by deleting .all but one of his preferred networks listed in the airport pane.<br />
I tried this and so far my connection hasn't dropped for about 10 hours now.  I don't think that the problem has been solved, but for now I am satisfied and won't spend the money on a new airport card which probably won't solve the problem either.<br />
Also, he suggested  make sure you"leave the setting under the Options button the "Automatically add new networks to the preferred networks list" unchecked or the problem will return.<br />
So far, its working.<br />
Also, my macpro is running 10.4 and it is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Nazir</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-46722</link>
		<dc:creator>Nazir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

Please let me know if anyone found any solution for this problem. It's so frustrating to see this connection drop problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>Please let me know if anyone found any solution for this problem. It's so frustrating to see this connection drop problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-46584</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mentioned &lt;a href="http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedia/2008/03/flaky-wifi-after-last-big-os-x.html"&gt;here at O'Reilly&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, people, read &lt;a href="http://nslog.com/2008/03/05/airport_connection_drops_part_deux"&gt;this later post of mine&lt;/a&gt; for more, updated information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentioned <a href="http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedia/2008/03/flaky-wifi-after-last-big-os-x.html">here at O'Reilly</a>.</p>
<p>Also, people, read <a href="http://nslog.com/2008/03/05/airport_connection_drops_part_deux">this later post of mine</a> for more, updated information.</p>
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		<title>By: kraig</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-46566</link>
		<dc:creator>kraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a problem for me for the last 6 weeks or so.  It started as soon as I upgraded to an 'n' wireless card in my mac, and has consistently dropped connections on both a dome AEBS, and a TC (bridged, n-only).  When connected to the TC, I *do* get a significant increase in throughput, but it doesn't last very long before it drops.  

Sometimes I can connect back from the wi-fi menu; sometimes I have to reboot altogether to get the network back.

I don't remember exactly when 10.5.2 released, so I don't know if that is a crucial part of the problem.  But it DOES seem that the 'n' network card combined with an intel machine (and?) 10.5.2 does NOT work properly.  

P.S. Just to clarify, the drops occur when I try to download large files (iTunes) or transfer large files to the TC.  Or when screen sharing.  To me, this implies that something is not working correctly with maxed-out throughput.  I only have drops during normal browsing very very rarely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a problem for me for the last 6 weeks or so.  It started as soon as I upgraded to an 'n' wireless card in my mac, and has consistently dropped connections on both a dome AEBS, and a TC (bridged, n-only).  When connected to the TC, I *do* get a significant increase in throughput, but it doesn't last very long before it drops.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I can connect back from the wi-fi menu; sometimes I have to reboot altogether to get the network back.</p>
<p>I don't remember exactly when 10.5.2 released, so I don't know if that is a crucial part of the problem.  But it DOES seem that the 'n' network card combined with an intel machine (and?) 10.5.2 does NOT work properly.  </p>
<p>P.S. Just to clarify, the drops occur when I try to download large files (iTunes) or transfer large files to the TC.  Or when screen sharing.  To me, this implies that something is not working correctly with maxed-out throughput.  I only have drops during normal browsing very very rarely...</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Guy</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-46534</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bug is painfully annoying. My airport drops every 10-15 minutes. :evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bug is painfully annoying. My airport drops every 10-15 minutes. <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: skelly</title>
		<link>http://nslog.com/2008/02/15/1052_and_airport_network_drops#comment-46519</link>
		<dc:creator>skelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:neutral: 
It has to be something they changed in the kernel ktext? Guess I should have done a diff before upgrading.

The problems didn't start right away for me. Then I started getting drops or it just not finding my airport extreme running 802.11g with firmware 5.7.

Deleted the other wifi networks from the list and it solved the problem (disconnects) for a day or two.

Then I started getting more drop outs so I re-booted the base station. Seemed to be OK again for a couple of hours then kept getting disconnects and scanning would seemingly randomly pick up the network again.

Walked round the house looking for Microwave sources and outside the house with a WiSpy. Nothing showing. No microwave cookers with holes in their shielding.  :roll:

Last thing I tried was the keychain thing mentioned above. Hasn't made a bit of difference and now I can't get a connection no matter what I do.

So I have an Apple MacBookPro talking to a Apple Airport Extreem using Apple drivers, on an Apple OS, and guess what? It sucks.  

:sad: 

Come on Apple, it's 2008, we've had ISO/TQM, and Unit Testing for years. Fix your code/firmware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />
It has to be something they changed in the kernel ktext? Guess I should have done a diff before upgrading.</p>
<p>The problems didn't start right away for me. Then I started getting drops or it just not finding my airport extreme running 802.11g with firmware 5.7.</p>
<p>Deleted the other wifi networks from the list and it solved the problem (disconnects) for a day or two.</p>
<p>Then I started getting more drop outs so I re-booted the base station. Seemed to be OK again for a couple of hours then kept getting disconnects and scanning would seemingly randomly pick up the network again.</p>
<p>Walked round the house looking for Microwave sources and outside the house with a WiSpy. Nothing showing. No microwave cookers with holes in their shielding.  <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Last thing I tried was the keychain thing mentioned above. Hasn't made a bit of difference and now I can't get a connection no matter what I do.</p>
<p>So I have an Apple MacBookPro talking to a Apple Airport Extreem using Apple drivers, on an Apple OS, and guess what? It sucks.  </p>
<p> <img src='http://nslog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Come on Apple, it's 2008, we've had ISO/TQM, and Unit Testing for years. Fix your code/firmware.</p>
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